Oops, I meant to list V3's stack. He has around $450. I'm on the button and cover everyone.
Agreed I should have sized up preflop to $60-70 minimum. Also makes it look more like a "steal" to some of these players.
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
As played, I can see shoving or flatting vs. a nit. If you flat, he's probably not betting unless he has a very big hand, so you can keep it a little cheaper and maybe shove him off a spade turn. If you shove, he's most likely folding what you beat and calling only with what beats you.
Any vibe on V1? If V1 is folding, I kind of like a flat vs. a nit. If a spade comes on the turn and he checks, I shove.
Yup, I think the big challenge with raising is V3 folds all the hands which beat me and loses the max to AJ/JJ. I kind of like the notion of flatting to semi-bluff spade turns, but unfortunately V1 *also* looked interested and if I flat he has great odds to continue with flush draws.
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Gross flop spot with the nit in the mix. I'll admit I haven't looked into this at all, and I'm not a huge fan of "tells" in general, but how often does a nit have the nuts when he asks "how much is it"? 100%? I think I can lean to a sigh fold here but it's a gross spot for sure.
ETA: Actually, most nits don't get too tarpy here in a big pot with a drawy board. So I wouldn't hate a ship here either.
Yeah, I actually tanked for a bit trying to figure out what the question meant:
1. Could he actually have a draw and genuinely wonder if he's getting a good price?
2. Is it an angle or speech play with the ~nuts? (my default assumption)
The problem is both seem unlikely: I don't see nit showing up with many FD here, but would he also only flat the ship with AJ/JJ with 2 people left to act?
Honestly, shipping seems pretty spewy. Literally ~never getting called by worse.
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