1/3 NLHE 8 handed.

Just moved tables and I'm tired. It's 4am, I've been having a rough couple weeks. I'm only down 1 BI in 2 weeks but I feel like I'm just treading water. Every hand I get into I either A. lose, B. hate the flop (like KK and flop comes A-7-2 and people start betting out) or C. Hate the runout.

V - asian gambler. Loose passive but gets frisky sometimes. I don't know him that well but he likes action. Pre he's very passive though. Sizes massive with premiums - like 25 cold pre. Covers. UTG+1.

HH - V opens UTG+2, H calls on BTN with KQo (thinking of 3-betting but this guy is sticky and stacks were about 100 BBs). Flop Qd-Jd-5s, he bets half pot I call (I don't have Kd), Turn Ks, he bets half pot I just call (?), river 2h brick he bets half pot I call. He shows T9s.

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350$ Eff hero stack.

UTG limps, V opens 15 UTG+1, folds to H on BTN who goes to 50$ with J J, folds back to V who calls. HU.

Flop 100 (300 back) - K T 5

Check, Check

Turn 100 (300 back) - A

Check, Hero bets 35, V check raises to 100, H snap mucks.

Was the turn bet dumb? Should I be betting flop here IP? Just check it down?

Betting flop makes more sense than betting turn but would still be questionable.

Turn bet serves no purpose. Just check back and hope to bink a Q or get a cheap showdown against a smaller pocket pair or JTs.

i think you can simplify BW-BW-low (only exception is A) to range bet small in 3b pot as ip until u get deeper. also k hi boards in general in 3b pots are incredibly good for ip so u usually just want to bet range on them. if you did somehow x flop i dont see what the purpose of betting turn is. its probably not a value bet but also not many if any better hands fold, and youre protecting vs like 2 outs at most

Yeah just check it, I don't think JJ is bad enough here to turn into a bluff but it's not near good enough to value bet.

Not a good runout, just X, get to SD.

Concur on turn, but why is a c-bet bad here? We're supposed to connect with this board.

Edit: and we call called with KQ on the history hand. Here, we're raising.

This might be a bad idea, but what if we shove over V's turn raise? (Assuming we c-bet originally as I wanted.)

That's a consistent story.

Yeah turn bet doesn't make sense.

I would've bet the flop for 41.0256% of the pot.

Don’t think it’s bad but don’t think it’s great. You can’t cbet every board that favours your range. As the 3-bettor sure you can continue here sometimes but there are better hands to do it with. JJ works poorly as a value/protection bet on this board against caller’s range and never works as a bluff.

Result:

Two broadway cards IP as 3bettor, definitely looking to range bet 20%-33%.

Nah. It’s 1/3. Balance shmalance.

Geezus, those run-outs though.

Yeah, uhm...I guess we can c-bet the K-high, two-tone, two-Broadway card board, but...how many better hands are we folding out? I don't exactly hate c-betting the flop, but don't really love it, either, and kinda prefer a check, so...so far, so good.

Turn is WTF how bad do I run. Even less sure what sticky V is folding to a delayed c-bet now, and thinking this guy would be leading out with all his bluffs and weak value that needs protection, so...yeah, if we bet here, we might as well hang a "check-raise me" sign around our neck.

Sucks to get to the river with JJ and not be able to put more money in the pot, but it sucks worse to put more money in the pot when we're almost certainly going to lose.

down 1 bi over 2 weeks is the exact definition of treading water so yes, it should feel that way, go get some sleep when you make statements like that


also, if you're including irrelevant nonsense like that in a hand history then it's clearly effecting you, so go take some time off, decompress and get some rest, don't be playing at 4 am where you second guess trivial decisions