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Originally Posted by moxterite
I'd have check-raised the flop, but as it stands you have top two with no straights or flushes. Jam now - you'd hate an 8 to hit and lose to K8o. You are almost always ahead now, can get called by worse, charge drawing hands. What's not to like.
Preflop you're getting 12/1 with a suited King - absolutely fine to call
Against a full table of unknowns, I probably check-raise the flop. But I went flat calling because:
1: V1 cleared the field - I'm unlikely to fold out either player and V1 probably shoves with a FD or V2 is easily priced in with a FD. If playing all-in against a FD, I'd rather have one card to come not two.
2: If V2 is nutted with a set, I think he smooth calls the flop a lot. He probably wants me in there and he likely also assessed that V1 would keep barreling. He's the kind to let an aggressive player take some rope.
3: I estimated V1 would continue barreling on the turn with most of his range.
OTT one V1 has bet and V2 has flatted a second time, I believe I can safely remove sets from V2s range, cutting my risk of running headlong into a set in half.
I think preflop is pretty much mandatory. I just hate being OOP with a hand that is at best a vulnerable two-pair and virtually never the nuts against 8 players. Ever winning with raggy Kx in this position seems to be entirely in the hands of the poker gods. On the BTN, RFI going heads-up, I can win the pot a dozen ways. From the BB calling multi-way I need to hit big, and it has to hold because it's unlikely I can ever take down the pot without showdown, and how strong is KK77 when 180+ bb stacks go in? It's definitely on the weak side. Especially with V1 uncapped.