1/2 NLHE, 9-handed

V: MAWG, BTN, covers. Very loose and gambl-y. Calls very wide pre. Loves to chase and very sticky. Buys in deeper than anyone.

H: OWW, EP, ~$270. Tight/aggressive. Raises more than anyone and for slightly larger sizing. I usually have it or something decent, but I do bluff. Not sure if this guy knows or cares.

The hand previous was a NLHE bomb pot, and AA won and showed. I don’t know if that has any effect on V’s thinking, but the very next hand I am dealt AcAs from UTG+2.

OTTH:

UTG limp, H raises to $15, V is only caller.

Flop ($30): AhJh3s

I bet $20 knowing this guy is calling wide or folding, almost regardless of size. V calls.

Turn ($70): AhJh3s Qc

I bet $60, V calls. I go on the big side knowing how sticky he is and I want to shove a blank river, although I realize it will be a big bet.

River ($190) AhJh3s Qc Ks

Hero? Not a great card, but not terrible. I have $175 left, but now I question whether he can call a shove with worse. Should I go for thin value or just shove? Do I slow down and check/call hoping he will take a stab?

Preflop: I assume 15 is your normal open in this game. With this guy on BTN I might deviate and go a little bigger to give him worse IO. He probably won't notice anyway.

Flop: we block most of the value on board and I assume he 3b's his JJ on BTN. So I guess we perhaps can go a little smaller on flop so he continues with Broadway guts shots and FDs. I appreciate your point about his inelasticity.

Turn: Broadway card completes the gutshot but is still our range card. I lean towards an overbet here. If he has KT, we are going broke I suppose. But we don't want to see a K/T or heart river.

River: Ks is not a great card for us. We've compressed the crap out of his range. I don't think he can call with anything other than Tx. We have all top sets and AK/AQ. I guess I'd rather try to bluffcatch getting 2-1 from V rather than stuff it in and give him 2-1 when he cannot really call with anything that we beat.

Against this V I would c/c. Top of our bluff catching range. Some V’s will always feel compelled to rep the one-liner esp once checked to.

Also I think I recall you saying you were in your 50s. Change your acronym to MAWW.

I like a turn overbet. As played I would block the river for value.

Just bet/fold the river - he has a ton of two pair hands that might call and of course won't shove worse. Even if he did have hearts a lot of times he has at least a pair here and probably shows down.

Vs V you could potentially size 30 otf, but just a nitpick, i think your sizing is solid. I think check river. If he ships its probably a fold.

How many tx do we think villain has? If we think he bluffs enough this can be a pure check call.

Maybe he is so fishy some of this analysis doesn't apply, and just block bet or smaller bet ($50?) on river is fine, though i'm not sure this is a good opponent to bet/fold against.

Bet $20. Jam if he raises less than all in. Call if he jams.

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If he’s inelastic why aren’t you bombing flop? I would bet 1/10 on river.

I'll be 56 on March 28 -- celebrating in Vegas It's hard to call myself middle aged because then I don't know what to call the 40-year-olds. I'll go with M/OWW.

FWIW, I feel like I'm in my 40s or younger.

Happy Birthday, my birthdays coming up a week before yours.

I would bet/call 100. He's probably gonna throw the rest in anyway if he's going with his hand thinking he might get Ax to fold so I'm not giving him the opportunity to possibly bluff us out if he had a FD.

56 is the new 46.

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Happy Birthday to you, too!

Jam river for value and get called by 2pair.

im checking

This is what I wish I had done, but hindsight is 20/20.

I went for value at $75, planning to call it off, and he called pretty quickly. He said he had two pair and would have called it all, and I believe him. I thought he might put me on AK and not call all-in. Missed some value there

Connectors better than one gappers.

Welp, I'm screwed for at least 2 years, when I turn 54.

If it helps (assuming it doesn't, as my forum image may be mud)...

A big bet or jam won't often get called by worse. A check might induce him to make a big bet with the nuts or with worse, and we'll be forced to guess, but it also allows him to just check back.

A suspiciously small bet for value might not get called, or might induce a spaz raise with worse. But there wouldn't appear to be a bet size that we could use which, if he raised, would allow us to fold, even if we thought we were beat.

Taking a stupid-small sizing like $20 (10% pot) takes away the opponent's option to check back instead of bluffing or betting worse for value. It ensures some money goes in, and will often induce a spaz-raise when a check or a regular smallish value won't.

With the remaining stack depth, I just don't see how we could ever fold. We don't want to jam knowing we'll probably only get called by worse, and we don't want him to check back. I think if we bet anything from 1/3 pot to less than a jam, he's just going to fold everything worse, because what bluffs could we possibly have?

It seems like we'd prefer to get stacks in against his entire range, and the best way to do that would seem like making a ridiculously small bet that might induce a spaz-jam, for the simple fact that it's annoying when an opponent bets 10% pot instead of just checking to us, in a spot where we might like to check back.

As a bonus, there's a chance he'll give off a tell, and we actually do make a good fold. If he looks amused by the small bet, then jams, fold. If he looks confused, and tank-jams, snap call.

ETA - also nothing wrong with defaulting to 40% pot when we just don't know what else to do, so...yeah, $75 is right on the money. NH, GG.

Vs bad players like this just take them to value town. They cant fold 2 pair. They might even find calls with top pair here if they had it. I see people all the time call down with 2pair hands on 4 straight and 4 flush boards for their whole stack. Obviously we would never do this vs a good player, but you pegged the villain as a drooler.

Respectfully disagree whole heartedly. This is live poker. People 100% call worse to a jam here, as demonstrated in this hand. There are tons of live players that just dont have a fold button and you can make a lot of money just blasting off with value. Checking to induce bluffs is not going to work vs the vast majority of low stakes live players because they simply dont bluff, but they will call off their stack in ridiculous spots they shouldnt. I got paid off for $1000 last session with a straight on a 4 straight board vs bottom 2 pair in the most obvious i have a straight spot ever. He even said, i knew you had a straight but i cant fold 2 pair, and a bunch of the table agreed, as did i of course, and he confidently rebought to continue losing more.

J,

Long time listener, first time caller. Love your posts.

I’d go larger on this turn but w/e.

I don’t see a lot of value in betting the river here. You block Ax, it’s hard for him to call with a ten in this case. So start with a check.