Had an interesting situation in a super small stakes game yesterday, I think this is a very borderline river decision. Tell me what you think, I'm just listing the bets in big blinds to keep it general. And I probably screwed up some math at some point
Game has a lot of obvious players, playing to "hand protect", meaning big but vulnerable hands are announced. Moderate to low skill level, not a lot of tricky play. I also expect calls preflop from very wide ranges (one guy called with Q8 off on a 3bet pre). My image is pretty good so far.
I'm utg+1, effective stack of ~180bb, with K
J
, folds to me and I open for 3bb. Get 3 callers. Pot is 12 bb.
Flop is K
T
7
, I lead for 6bb. 3calls, pot is 36bb.
Turn is 4
. I lead for 20bb. Again, 3 callers. Pot is 116 bb. My stack is ~151bb.
River is 8
(flush draw misses, J9 comes in, and 69 comes in).
In this spot, would you
- Bet-fold for value
- Check-call
- Check-fold
I was looking at it combinatorically, and having a hard time deciding what was right. By my count there are 40 combos of hands which I beat that I can get value from:
K9, K6, K5, K3, K2 -- I include K2 for sure. Dunno if tens ever call here.
There are 50 combos of hands that beat me:
KQ, K8, K4, J9, 96 -- I'm excluding 2 pairs and sets on the flop because I think they raise. Don't know if pocket 4s or 8s ever continue to hit their sets. If you eliminate 96 from the turn bet, that total combos I lose to drops to 34. All of those hands, except maybe KQ, raise me on the river.
I want to say it's a bet fold for value, but I'm really not sure. Checking could induce bluffs or value bets by worse, so that's the argument for check-calling I suppose. Is this is a check-fold ever?? (This is more of an exercise than anything, I'm nowhere near savvy enough to think this through during a game).