CO is somewhat thinking player but not good. He is way to loose preflop. Has been raising a wide range, have seen him raise J9s to $15 in middle position after 1 limper. Have not seen him do much postflop except cbets. Asian around 25

Hero and CO have $400

Hero has tight image

4 limpers, Hero makes it $20 in BB with AQ

Short stack fish limper calls $20 (when he only has $33 lol), CO calls

Flop is
37T (Pot is $63)

Hero bets $30, short stack calls all in for $13, CO calls $30

Turn is A (Pot is $136)
Hero bets $75, CO calls $75

River is J (Pot is ~$286)

Hero checks, CO looks around at main pot and side pot then my stack fro around 10 seconds then goes all in for $275

I might just see a flop here preflop. We're deepish against CO and it sounds like he's loose and might be able to get tricky postflop. Is this really a guy we want to be building a bloated pot OOP to? If everyone was ABC / stacks a lot shorter to setup a comfortable stackoff SPR with TP, the more I'd lean towards raising.

Pot is kinda almost protected with the shortstacker perhaps committed, so I might just check/evaluate this flop (leaning towards folding if Villain gets involved).

I'd check the turn. Villain called flop in a mostly protected pot, so he's got something. Is he going to call many more bets with just 2nd- pair that didn't improve to two pair on the turn (with Ax two pair being the most common pair there can be)? There's really only one draw (the OESD of 98) that we shouldn't be too concerned about. I'd be very wary of putting much more money into this pot on the turn, especially since even a smallish 1/2 PSB (which we ended up doing) leaves us with only a < PSB left OOP on the river.

I think the river is a check/fold. The original main pot is protected, the only good draw got there and a lot of two pairs somehow managed to get there too.

Goverplayedourhand,imoG

What could he possibly have that you're ahead of? 8s7s?

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Not a great c betting flop against limp/callers IMO, even worse since short stack isn't folding. I'm not c betting. If we're going to c bet I think it needs to be more than $30into $60+. We're never betting $30 with an overpair here, right?

He can't have J9,JT,QT,KT,3Xss,7Xss?

Flop is pretty dry. If we had an overpair I probably wouldn't actually bet that much (are we really looking to quickly build a pot to stack off to?) so a 1/2 PSB on this board seems ok to me; I wouldn't even despise a check with an overpair either (opponent dependent).

I guess it depends on our bet sizing tendencies and if others are even paying attention, but I don't think too much can be assumed from a 1/2 PSB here.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Well I think short stack is putting in his last $13 with almost any 2 cards so I cbet to try and get CO to fold since this is a dry flop that doesn't hit much. I think AQ is still ahead of them both on the flop quite often since their ranges are so wide.

It's pretty weird for him to shove a ten here. Why was he calling on the turn if he feels like he needs to bluff in this spot?

I think a flop c-bet is in order to fold out low PPs, crap like 75/76, etc. We're still in good shape against V's range OTF, but it's going to be hard to realize our equity, so I have no problem trying to take the pot down now.

Turn is a definite c/c. What do we expect him to call two streets with that we are ahead of?

River, AP, is a fold.

Really? I think like half of CO's limp/call range has some sort of piece of this board: A pair,pair+BSDS, pair+BDFD,OESD,GSSD,GSSD+BDFD, Overs+BDFD/BDSD.

Maybe it is not so much about what you would do with an overpair, rather do you want him to fold or not.

Almost mandatory to bluff QT OTR IMO. He beats pretty much nothing. Yeah, it's a loose turn call but I see it all the time.

Also QJ,86ss,J9ss,96ss,64ss,54,J8ss. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that A9/A8/K9/K8/Q9 hh ss dd over calls $30 OTF.