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08-07-2018 , 05:04 PM

HomelessPizza

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 599

Game has been pretty straightforward, pretty loose/passive, lots of limping

5/5

4 limps
In bb check Q

(cover)
Flop QT8r (25)
I go 15, mp1 calls, mp2 to 60 (1.2k), btn cold calls (MABG, 700, TAG)
I call and mp1 calls
Turn 5hh (265)
I check, mp1 jams 300, mp2 calls (800 behind), btn folds,
Hero?

Looking back, I think raise-folding flop is best?, but MP2 had been very tight/straightforward and BTN cold calling also threw me off.

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08-07-2018 , 06:18 PM

PoBoy321

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,982

What are the effective stacks? On the turn, you’ve got to have a really strong read to overcall with two pair there, I think.

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08-07-2018 , 06:41 PM

paperboyNC

old hand

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,793

Always tough to beat two players. Does MP2 suck and over play AQ after limping with it playing 5/5? Could MP2 have limped KK/AA hoping to trap?

Only two hands really scare me:
88
J9

We have a lot of blockers to QQ and TT and they would have been likely to raise pre-flop.

MP1's turn jam doesn't feel like J9 or 88. Usually a turn over jam is designed to scare players out, so I'm only really worried about MP2.

Need some reads on MP2...

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08-07-2018 , 06:55 PM

QuadJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 6,238

Really needs some reads on villains. There are ones I could call against on turn or even raise flop. But against 2 typical opponents I'm either folding flop or folding turn. Getting raised and having the raise get called on this board is dangerous. Your hand is good but it's a limped pot and not so good it's worth risking your stack to find out multiway.

Your hand is above most value hands but a lot of those are single pairs or draws that don't always raise or call a raise. There are lots of hands that call a flop bet there but the action starts discounting a lot of those also.

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08-07-2018 , 08:06 PM

Balerion1

adept

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,056

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Originally Posted by HomelessPizza

Game has been pretty straightforward, pretty loose/passive, lots of limping

5/5

4 limps
In bb check Q

I'd raise flop and fold to a re-raise. If the table is limpy, MP2 should have some some T8, Q8 in his range. 3 combos of 88, J9 (16 combos?) some AQ/KQ. Button calling seems like a Qx more often than him slow playing J9 or some sets he may have, I think you also have to be cognizant of that fact that you're call will almost always bring mp1 in.

I'd raise flop, but be prepared to fold to a raise. I don't thin AQ/KQ, T8, Q8 will come over the top, only J9 and 88

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