Reads
Villain: Mid- late twenties, foreign looking not sure where from. Does not strike me as a poker genius although I have no real reads as this is my first orbit at table.

Effective Stacks: 151

$1/2 NL - 10 players - $200 max

Hero (UTG) covers
Villian (MP) $151

Hero is dealt red JJ.

Hero opens to 12, 4 callers.

Flop (63) Js 2s 4s

Hero leads for 45. Villian calls

Turn (153) 5s

Hero??

Considering there were 5 players in the hand, I think you kind of gave away the fact that it got HU between you and MP.

It's actually pretty important to know your stack size and the rest of the players in the hand and where they are in relation to MP. For example, it plays a lot differently if you and everyone else have $400 behind.

As is, against MP's $151, we're getting stacks in easily. $60/call.

ALL IN

i would check call, because it adds more value than just shipping.

and if the turn goes check, check u can reevaluate the river.

Reads
Villain: Mid- late twenties, foreign looking not sure where from. Does not strike me as a poker genius although I have no real reads as this is my first orbit at table.

Effective Stacks: 151

$1/2 NL - 10 players - $200 max

Hero (UTG) covers
Villian (MP) $151

Hero is dealt red JJ.

Hero opens to 12, 4 callers.

Flop (63) Js 2s 4s

Hero leads for 45. Villian calls

Turn (153) 5s

I am really weighting Villian's range heavily towards AsXx or KsXx, possibly 2 pair. I also figured that if I am drawing to a boat that Villian may have tendency to slow play. I attempted to block turn.

Hero leads for 45, Villian calls.

River (243) Ad

Hero?? Villian has 49 back.

I think I would have just checked the turn and decided whether or not to call based on villain's bet size.

As played on the river I just don't see us being good here very often. There really shouldn't be many 2 pair combinations in his range, so he likely has a flush. I'm probably c/f'ing despite the fact that I'd be getting nearly 6-1 if he shoves river.

So when you bet 45 as a blocking bet where you planning on folding to a shove for 49 more? Just curious

c/c turn

is c/f a big turn bet terrible?

I think all-in has some merit, we have some Fold equity now and we don't have many chips left. We can either check/fold and top off or jam here. Nothing else, C/C seems spew

If I'm reading it correctly effective stack sizes are only $94 on the turn.

We're almost priced in vs a flush, but checking may induce a desperate bluff that we're beating.

If we are going to call, why give him the chance to bluff us? Lets just jam it here. I see you are 100% calling I suppose, so you want to get him to put his stack in or check to get a cheap river...ah I understand

because we might fold out hands he would otherwise turn into bluffs.

and if he checks back that's fine too.

Think about how stupid what you just said is.

I edited my post, before you posted hahahahaha. Don't bust on me so hard bro, it's early

heh it's alright I'm kind of in a bad mood so I came off harsh there

Sabr2 did u play 200nl fr rush on FTP back in the day?

I would just ship here. I doubt he is going to turn much into a bluff and we may as well get $$ from Jx with 1 spade type hands while we can. And there are some rivers that would cause us to lose value from his strong 1pr hands that he may be calling the turn with.

There's a 4 flush on the turn.

Oh my. I thought it was the third spade and I was super confused. I don't see how we are doing anything but c/f to be honest.

Unless he bets super small or something.

played 200 and 400 FR rush

GRunch
ASP he is never folding the river c/f
But the turn i think is a c/f as well i just dont see much we beat that would call if we ship the turn or bet so i would give up. And i highly doubt he would fold to a bet/shove on turn becauses not much else calls the flop that doesnt beat us on the turn.

it's a 4-card flush...
obviously check the turn. What do you accomplish by betting? Worst hands are never calling. You're just value-owning yourself.

I check the turn, and fold to a large bet (we have a draw now... 10 outs to improve).

Honestly, when does villain ever have anything but a flush here?

Thought ur SN looked familiar