blech. he could be as weak as bottom two. but more likely he has either a set or the bottom straight.

call and run it twice.

Edit: misread the hand, shrug-calling at this point

I called. He had 6h3h. We ran twice

First river was Kd
Second river was some brick and we chopped.

With a straight and a flush redraw, this has to be one of the worst bets ever (although I did call so whatever). I had one of the very few hands I would ever call with. The sick thing is if he makes an actual good bet...like $200....I call and river the K and bust him for a huge pot so his horrible bet saved his ass this time.

I kinda think you are the on who got lucky

Yeah, that's some massive results orientated thinking. I wouldn't try to make myself feel better by thinking, "well, he played bad on this hand, too." The villain made it clear that he wasn't going to pay you off if you were ever going to be ahead in this hand.

Pretty sick read guy

we have 4 out vs a straight, with one card to come. this is not way too many outs.

i have called in these spots before (not with this big of an overbet) and it usually doesn't work out to well. don't go broke in a limp pot without the nuts.
(edit)
i missed that we have the heart draw. yeah this spot really sucks. probably have to call

It's definitely a fold based on results and the read you should have on this guy.

Why are you running it twice here? Very bad spot for that

RIT is EV neutral. If you don’t believe me do a search for one of the many threads about it.

"Probably have to call" when villain (almost) 3x pots?

While we do have heart outs, it's not that many, because villain has 2 in his hand and the 2h is dirty. So real time there's 10 outs, and theoretically theres 13 if villain isn't on the nfd, which he probably isn't.

Villain bets $600 into $225.

I won't math that the whole way, but there's no way calling is +EV with this villain as described.

I think that's what he meant at the bottom.

I always run it twice unless the other guy doesnt want to. I dont pick and choose. That's horrible etiquette

Guys, it is 9 outs. The 8 of Hearts is bad for us too.

How's that?

Villain holds 3h6h hero has the 7h. Or did I misread that?

Sorry. Read it wrong. 10.

Don't go broke in a limped pot without the nuts.

Gotta love this little nugget

Not a joke bud. If he's spazzing this hard with a straight and flush draw then no shot he does this with 2 pair or a set or nfd. Good thing you picked all this up previously tho.

You have no idea whether or not he would do it with 2 pair and neither do I. We rarely see anyone jam $600 into a $225 pot and even more rarely ever see a bet like that get called. Its too rare of an event to know what one player would or wouldn't do it with.

Last week a saw I $20 raise and then a guy 3 bet jammed $750 in preflop with 95s. I doubt anyone expected to see that hand at showdown.

But that point of my post was that the "results" have nothing to do with it being a fold or not.

Think it is fairly safe to say it wasn't 2 pair. Have seen noobs spazz Nut flush draw in this spot though.

Cool story no one cares. Is it the same villain as this hand? No. If this guy from your imaginary story was the one shoving then it's a snap call based on the results of the 95s hand. I guarantee next time this exact spot comes up vs this guy you'll fold because of the results bud.

By "results" the implication is that now you have a viable history with this SPECIFIC villain to fold in this spot in the future. Not "results" in the sense that because this HAND didn't work out, so you fold every time a villain overbet jams.

If you aren't building a history with villain based on the "results" of the way he played, you're wrong and it's a leak in your game.

This is in the long run an obvious flopped straight of which there are 32 combinations. If he had 63 offsuit I would perceive this player type to bet the turn as well after your flop just call.

These businessmen type players are exactly the ones to shove all in for value in spots they know opponents will have a hard time folding in.

Players who are capable of overbet jams without the nuts are usually super aggressive in lots of spots which doesn’t seem to match him.

I think you should focus on your results oriented thinking as stated by others and what is causing that (switch to ignition so you can get more hands in and can care less about big once a day pots live?) as well as how he only needs one combo of a hand worse than you per three hands stronger to make this a profitable call. So you called correctly given your reads on him at the time.

I thought it was the nut straight for sure but the smaller straight with the flush re-draw just in case someone else has the nut straight (which V partially blocks) also makes sense. V also blocks the flush draw if anyone else is drawing. It's pretty sick how strong he is here and that overplaying it saved his stack. There are a class of players that overprotect huge hands but I haven't seen it to this magnitude at 2/5. He probably gets calls more than we would think at 1/2 and 1/3 with just pair + flush draws or even naked nut flush draws making it less terrible. Thanks for sharing though as I agree this spot is super rare at live 2/5.