So villain is loose pre, limps etc but other than that i dont really know much. We did play a hand a few sess ago where he donked turn when i had KK on a Q high board where he made a straight then river came a flush completing card and he x to me so i vb thinking he had Q - he tank called. And he’s caught me bluffing smal before.

i do think he won’t 3b his straddle here with a trash hand - most like top 15% or whatever. 99+, AQ+

so i raise to $20 on button, he raises to 45 on straddle, i call. We are $900 effective.

FLOP Q23hh/d $94
xx

TURN 4d $94
v bets $40, hero calls


RIVER 6x
villain bets $60, hero raises to $180

thoughts?

No other replies? Guess i was wrong in thinking it was a good bluff. Figured i have all 55, A5s, 45s, 65s,some 75s. Is it just button clicking?

Even against the tiny 3bet I'd rather have a bit more than a suited one gapper - given the range you assign to him you'll never win with a pair. Suited connector for ma at the very least...if you don't fold this are you folding anything at all?

Postflop I can get on board with although turn might be marginal. Opponent never has a 5; you can sometimes have a 5 (although given action you probably don't have a set and certainly don't have two pair); you have zero showdown value. If he tank calls with a straight on a flushing board, it's not much info to go on but it sounds like he may be capable of laying down a medium strength hand here (and whatever he has is likely a bluffcatcher). The presence of two flush draws isn't ideal though. If you do pull the trigger I'd rather go a bit bigger, don't let him shrug call cos odds

HH kinda shows him as straightforwardish / faceup? If so, I don't mind a preflop raise, although I think an open limp to play in position postflop is also fine. This deep and facing a ~minraise I guess I can get behind the preflop call in position (but certainly hate getting myself into this spot).

I'm cool with checking back the flop. In general, the chances of taking down the pot on a flop bet alone when the preflop 3better checks to us is pretty slim, plus we have nothing going for us.

ETA: Didn't realize we picked up a flush draw on the turn; ok.

I dislike the river bluff. The main flush draws missed / why should we have a 5 in our range / his flop check is often a tarping monster.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I'm folding preflop but here we are.

We rep very thin on river and offer V almost 3-1 to call. FDs have bricked and I cannot see what V would fold here at this price.

We could maybe rep 65s on turn but river 6x blocks part of the range we wanted to rep. We raise half of our A5s wheels on turn because of the two FDs on board. Cannot endorse the river bluff here.

I don't really like bluffing people I don't know, but that's just me.
I prefer bluffing if their lines look weak and there's straight or flush completing cards but he's already shown strength by 3betting his straddle
so it looks more like a guess, hoping he's at the bottom of his range and would fold. I don't think people fold too much on river bluffs though as they do ott because they know it's the final bet in the hand and it's only 120 more into over 400.

Big +1 to this. Our opponent doesn't know if we're a super nit or not and we don't know if he's a calling station.

Geasiertogetbehindwithwellknownimagesinplay,imoG

Do you and Playbig fight over the last cup of free, black coffee on the server's tray?

I only satisfy two of the three OMC requirements. (that may have not come our right / that's what he said)

Ghasneverhadacupofcoffeeinmylife,weird?G

I like the bluff. You have some suited 5x that can’t fold for the price he laid you pre and that’s a draw you would always call with on turn. He’s pretty capped at 1 pair and if we make it a bit more, maybe 240, he’s going to have a tough time calling. We’re even turning his potential top set into a bluff catcher. I’d go for it, and if he calls at least he’s someone we’re going to play with in the future.

Having a bluffing range here is good, especially given the other hand where he tanked to a single bet with a straight. Not so keen on the execution.

Between the small 3!, how little money has gone in postflop, and the two flush draws busting, ranges are pretty wide and have a lot of air. If we're doing it with this hand (no blockers against made hands, and blockers against FDs), then we're probably playing in a way that's going to make opponents curious, which will make us lose money if we're overbluffing in 9-handed poker. You've already shown them one bluff, it's gonna get exponentially harder to get him to put you on a straight that's barely in your range.

I also think the size makes it very easy for him to sigh call just because he has to see it. I tend to make my river raises pot-sized+ (so $360 here) in general with us closing the action of the hand. No real reason in not going maximally polar.

That last paragraph is especially good advice for all you TINOs out there who have never value raised the river with a single pair in your life...

i appreciate the replies - be snapped with KK and i was bewildered that he didn’t even consider anything. i do believe my raise is too small here. i’ll have to go for more value vs him in the future i guess. what’s a TINO?

In general, I don't attempt to get players to fold big overpairs+ (which he has repped with his line) when the main draws bust (even with my super nitty image).

From the opposite viewpoint, when a flush draw busts and a four-to-a-straight runs out, I almost always induce to my opponent when OOP with the plan of snapping it off.

GcluelessreppingnoobG

lol i thought he was terrible player but clearly he’s next level cause he went for the bet call and made even more money. i just suck.

Why TAgg in Name Only, of course!