Hero is playing TAG, both villains are farely new but seem to know what they're doing. Important to note they are not limping hands like K10o.

Hero: 200bb
Villain 1: 150bb
Villain 2: 120bb

The hand:

Villain 1 limps utg+1, Folds to villain 2 who limps HJ, CO calls, SB completes and Hero checks the BB with 33.

Flop ($20): 236

Hero leads out for $20, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls, both CO and SB fold.

At this point, Villains ranges are 22/66/65s/46s/55/A6s/QJs/45s/47s Both call pretty easily so no real timing tells.

Turn ($80): 5

Pretty bad turn card for us so I elect to check, both Villains check behind, Im a little puzzled by this because this card helps their range significantly. Im ruling straights out of the equation at this point because I feel any straight would bet this turn 100% of the time to build a pot especially in position.

River ($80): 2

Hero bets pot for $80 to get value from any badly played straight, Villain 1 tanks for 15 seconds and raises to $300. Villain 2 folds. Hero tanks for a minute. Even though we have a full house, we should never call this given the way the hand was played. Both villains are good players with knowledge of good preflop holdings. Therefore, we can never expect them to show us 62s/32s/52s and if they have a straight they would just call because raising here is suicide. Hero mucks and Villain flips over 22 and says I thought you had the straight or a boat. Hero smiles and says nice hand.

Anyone play it differently?

Just commenting on the hand...

Flop is standard, we flopped a set so should feel pretty good about the board. I like the lead out and would think V's could easily call with 22-TT and even float with two overs like KQs, QJs, AJs type hands. Of course, I assume JJ+ would have raised pre...

Turn is a huge scare card but WE SHOULDN'T BE SCARED!!!! The only person we should really fear in this situation is the SB and lucky for us he folded. So, we can proceed business as usual and bet or check the turn depending on what we want to accomplish. I'd check because being in the blind means that 77-TT and overs that floated us WILL put a 4 in our range and fold to our turn bet. Similarly, by checking we can induce a V floating with overs to try to steal on turn.

So when the turn checks through, we can now take 44 out of V's range.

RIver is a dream card and I like the lead out, easy bet.

I applaud the bet/fold in this spot. Most players would have never been able to do that. But IMO, the only way we can EVER fold in this spot is if our V's are ABC type players that play straight forward.

If villains were the typical donks that love to play their lucky numbers and suited gapers because they are sooottteeeddd, then we'd have to call here.

But if V's are decent "solid" ABC type players who are never raising river with a straight and would never limp pre with hands like 52s then yes, this is an easy bet/fold river.

He could have 44 on the turn. But you must get here. Sick fold on river. I call 100% of the time expecting a bluff. Because no one raises that much with a straight so unless I put him at 55 66 with 100% clarity its a call

Forgot to mention both villains havent gotten out of line and are playing pretty straight forward. All information came on the turn. Anyone in this forum (including myself) and almost 100% of players would bet a straight on the turn for value with 2 other people in the hand. I cant give him credit for a straight here and if hes bluffing, what did he call with on the flop? Like I said before, even though we have a full house, villains hand is so polarized on this board texture that folding just seemed like the only correct play (even though not many combination of hands beat us).

villains floating to bluff are much more likely to bluff turn than river. Only way they are bluffing river is if we check it to them.

Most villains at this level simply do not have it in them to bluff these rivers if we lead out with a decent bet.

So basically, if a villain is aggro enough to bluff, he's bluffing the turn a HIGH percentage of the time and likewise isn't bluffing river when we bet out.

So we can actually bet/fold in this spot with a high degree of confidence.

The only way we have to b/c is if villain's are known donks that would limp with garbage hands like 52s and 62s and that is such a narrow "stupid" range that we can eliminate it and thus bet/fold this spot with a very high frequency and degree of confidence ESPECIALLY against decent ABC players.

I don't think it is a good fold. I think most (not all) live ranges are wider than our limited information might indicate --> b/c our information is so limited given how few hands we see a typical villain play.

I would have raised OTR and lost my stack.

But, I'm speaking in general terms. Yes, some V's always have the nuts. But is this one of them? IDK, only OP does, given that only he was at the table. There is so much more happening at the table that only you, OP can know --> dynamics, table-talk, showdowns, ect. So in that sense, my opinon is based on imcomplete information.

posting results in the OP has ruined this thread imo.

i'm not sure how we can fold such a good hand with few reads for 60bb otr.

+1

shoving otr is spew, maybe if this is 1/2 and not 2/5, a level 0 donk might call with a badly played straight..

but yes I'd probably call for the reason you stated - we have to really believe our reads and villain is playing 100% ABC for us to fold. I'd likely have called the river for 60bb, especially given the description that 'villains are fairly new'