NL Holdem $10(BB) Replayer
SB ($816) < fish at the table
BB ($1,000)
Hero ($1,137)
UTG+1 ($1,707)
UTG+2 ($2,253)
CO ($1,075)
BTN ($2,500) < good agg reg 23/19/33 (vpip/pfr/aggfreq), 3bet 11%, ftcb 51, ftcb turn 18

Hero is UTG with J T

Hero raises to $30, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $30, SB calls $25, fold

FLOP ($100) T J 9

SB checks, Hero bets $70, BTN calls $70, SB folds

TURN ($240) T J 9 2

Hero ??

Whats our plan here?
What line do u like most and why.. bet/call, bet/fold, check/raise, check/call or whatever

Wait, you mean you actually sat down at a 5/10 table full of internet players? Why would you do such a thing?

i think you have to bet and then evaluate the raise size and timing, but probably can't fold to a raise against this guy on such a drawheavy board.

just kind of a tough spot to play well, but i think checking is really bad. Playing out of position sucks.

With that low ftcb turn, I'm betting and expecting him to call a lot, well some, with worse. If raised, look up ^

the question is whether to bet or c/r?

yea pretty much, i stated all possibilities, dont know why

Against some players, you could consider bet/folding the turn, but this doesn't seem like that type.

This is a board I don't expect to get checked back very often as they will have either a hand they want to protect, a draw they want to use their fold equity with, or something they floated you with that thinks it can get you to fold.

C/r is also really awkward if you get flatted because so much of the deck brings 4 to a straight, a flush, or overcards that can make a bigger 2 pair. Maybe there's some merit to c/shove (overbet)? The river just seems like it would be really uncomfortable with one bet left.

Leading lets you get all in on the turn if they raise, or bet/fold the river when you feel that's best.

After all that, I think I'd go for a bet/3bet ai here without additional reads.

I think I like leading out here more. The fact that button smooth-called the the flop makes it seem like you have him beat at that point. If you check and he checks back a lot of rivers can scare you/kill the action.

lets save the coaching for later mike

jk but what you said really made sense to me and until the last sentence i thought were on the same page cus i read it like it was best to c/r allin ott, so overbet it
also i think the range he bets ott when i check to him is behind on my hand but that his range ott when he calls/raises my turn cbet is stronger than my hand.. he has some combo draws im in front off but he has position and can play them perfectly otr.. i take away that possibility if i c/r turn ai

Yeah, it seems pretty close. You could be right that it's better, but I think the analysis of the hand is more important that the final choice you make about how to play it.

Betting is best here. You don't want a hand with a lot of equity to check back here. The problem that a lot of people come up with is that out of position against a decent regular, this spot isn't a big money maker.

Whatever the best play here is, is still the best play. You're right, you don't make a ton against good regulars oop, but that's not relevant to the situation.

We're expecting hands with a lot of equity to bet here. If our read on the opponent says he'll check back with a lot of stuff here, I would want to take a bet/3bet line here more often.

betting turn here for sure... kind of disagree that villain won't check back this turn often.

he checks it back ott a decent amount of the time im sure

I just meant that people aren't happy with the spot in general because its not an awesome one. I would still bet as well, 3betting a raise might be ok, but you are going to be looking at a slowplayed straight a lot more than a semibluff that waited until the turn, and a decent regular isn't raising a one pair hand on the turn in position.