1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

Just moved tables. This table is more action and deeper stacks. This is my third hand at the table, I folded pre the first two.

V - Young asian kid I have never seen before. HJ. 371$.

H - Young white guy that V doesn't know. Covers. BTN.

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UTG straddles, MP and LJ limp, V opens to 30, Hero sees T T and raises to 115, folds back to V who calls HU.

Flop 230 - 8 6 3

Check, I bet 65, V calls

Turn 360 - 9

Check, Check

River 360 - 8

V shoves 191 giving you a price of 2.88:1, Hero?

I like jamming pre. The iso raise is too big, there is plenty of dead money, and he is raising with a bunch of hands thst probably won't call a jam. He will call with overpairs thst have us crushed, but he occasionally might call with a pair we have crushed or we might be flipping. He may also fold hands that maybe should call off like AJ.

Getting here on river I think I just call getting a great price.

Turn seems like a jam, based on how we got there, the action so far, and the fact there's only a half pot sized bet left.

Yeah, turn check seems bad. He could definitely have 88/99/JJ/QQ, but once you 3! you need to go with it on this board.

Pre - I like a smaller 3B or flatting at 1/3.

Flop - as played, I don't see the purpose of betting small. Allows V to peel over cards, and there are quite a few turns that are unfav for our hand.
Given our pre sizing, I'd gii.

As played, gii on turn; calling river.

Yeah, you could flat preflop at 1/3. Once you get a low flop and SPR of 1.2, you need to go with it. Flop and turn play is bad.

What are you doing if he shoves preflop? You are getting 2.2-1 and maybe he has AK or something, but you probably have to fold at 1/3.

At this stake level, against an unknown, AP I would fold river.
We can beat 22, 44, 55, non-flush Ax & Kx, but I don't wee why they jam the river.

Result:

This hand really put me on tilt. I should've gone for a walk after but lost this BI and then lost the second getting it in with KK vs AQ pre. Rough night. I think I need to identify these moments and have some mental strategy like sitting out an orbit or two or just leaving all together.

Yeah, that's the problem at 1/3. They will flat like JJ and gii on the low board. It is kind of risky. Like I implied you probably have to fold to a 4! preflop. I would just flat pre. I would have some bluff 3!s, but that weak a strong hand.

You're going to lose a few buy ins when you play poker man. At this stack depth it is basically just a cooler.

3bet a tad bit smaller preflop. I like 90-100. I would cbet a tad bit bigger on flop. Probably shoving turn.

FWIW, I understand calling the river shove. I don't like to make hero folds to unknown young Asians.

Playing 99-JJ in spots like this can be challenging. Really very few flops we're going to love, whether we 3B or call to set mine.

Ordinarily I'd like the almost 4x 3B size, but here with V's stack size it pot commits us to stack off with top pair or better on the flop. So I'd say pre we should flat call, or jam, or maybe mix in some smaller raise sizing, like 2.5x, and fold to a 4B. Here, multi-way, I think I prefer just flatting IP.

As played, I think the flop is just a jam with an over-pair and 1 SPR. Doubtful he's folding JJ+, but we can get value from 99/77 and deny equity from unpaired over-cards.

JJ vs TT, not much you can do to avoid going broke once you 3B pre at this stack depth.

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Thanks Mlark, really means a lot coming from someone at your level.

I'd probably just flat TT here. Betting turn also makes sense for the reasons above. As played 3 to 1 with an overpair is too good to pass up most of the time.

-I don't want to get into the whole race based profile thing, but the most important part of description of villain is "unknown" which means we should primarily use as Bayesian approach (a la Ed Miller) of what typical 1/3 priors are for profiles.

Given that and we have position, I'm flatting pre.

As played given we only have a bluff catcher at this point, and all his value beats us, I'm folding river - again an Ed Miller take from "The Rules".

I get not wanting to get into profiling based on race but isn’t “Young” a critical part of the description of Villain? In my experience there is a huge difference between a typical 1/3 player and a young 1/3 player.

Honestly in my experience, no. IMO 80% of 1/2 or 1/3 play similarly, and sure in general old people tend to be a little tighter than older, and in all cases large river bets are underbluffed regardless, and perhaps you folks are all better at picking off big bluffs from unknowns, but I simply can't do at a profitable level for any demograpgic.