Hi All,

It's been a while again. I just grinded out 24 hrs of poker on the long weekend and will have a few hands to discuss. This is the first one I've got in mind:

Information Breakdown

$3/$3, Star Casino

Hero has a solid winning image and has mostly shown good hands throughout the five hour session (5-6 players stayed on same table throughout so far), and has recently been caught trying to bluff a new young timid looking kid wearing a bow-tie who check/snap called a river with A8o on a As9s3c Js 5h board when hero raised in CO with KcTs, c-bet HU, checked back gutshot and fd turn and put his remaining $130 on brick river (comments)?


Villain in this hand is an old solid/nitty player who has made a couple of position raises so plays a wider range than the usual old nit. Has a bet sizing tell like most of the players where $20 indicates more strength and $16-18 indicates lesser strength. He is in CO this hand and is facing lots of limpers.

All stacks have minimum 100bb and effective is $480 (160bb) in this hand.

Hand:


Hero (SB, $900) posts $3 with JT
BB posts $3
UTG monkey tilt semi-fish limps
UTG+1 drooler limps
UTG+2 good player folds
UTG+3 random folds
HJ good player limps
Villain in CO ($220 ish) raises to $13
Btn semi-fish folds
Hero calls $13
BB folds
UTG folds
UTG +1 drooler ($480) calls $13
Rest folds. 3-way to flop


Flop ($48) :

A J T

Hero checks
Drooler checks
Villain bets $35
Hero raises to $85
Drooler folds
Villain thinks for about 10-15 seconds and puts in additional $110 all in


Hero ?

There has to be lots of AX in his range.
As well as AKx, AQx, KX, QX type hands.
Sure, there are some KQ, AJ, AT hands also.

But it's going to be hard to construct a reasonable range that we are behind here given how many draws there are on the flop. I think some villains get it in here with red AK too.

Can't really see folding here given the price we are getting.

If villain jammed $200 on top, I think it'd be a lot closer, and might even be a fold.

I'd 3bet pre with that sizing tell but if not fold. 3bet>fold>>>call imo.

I'd lead flop to make sure we get a street of value from the drooler since the PFR won't always c-bet with the drooler in the pot.

As played gotta gii. Because of his pre sizing we can eliminate AA, JJ, TT, maybe even AJ so his range is like AT, KQ, and a ton of draws like NFD and gutter + FD.

I'm not sure what is 'questionable' about this hand. You flopped bottom two, on a wet board, with effective stacks of ~75 BB. Time to get the money in, and leave the soul reads at home.

What this guy said.

I'm not light 3 betting a family pot pre oop vs someone who we aren't sure has a fold to 3bet button. Pre is a fold ainec in my opinion. As played call it off but its a lot closer than it looks. Old men don't typically bet/jam AcXc inless their kicker is good. I'm just hoping its AK here.

Villain seems to be a thinking player so your bluff in the previous hand and check-raise here may weight your range towards draws or a combo. Still, I don’t think this type of opponent raises anything that is behind.

I believe there are more combos of AJ/AT/KQ then AcXx/XcXc. Couple this with his image and I’d make a tough fold. If you think he is capable of doing this with AQ+ or peeling a free turn with a FD, then 3-bet > calling imo.

Pre – I’d likely fold. Alternatively given the sizing tell I might 3-bet. Your image may have taken a hit, so I’d fold despite being deep. Position is obviously a major disadvantage.

Tough to fold this flop. I think pre flop can either be a call or a fold. I don't mind folding these types of hands in the SB but I generally like to have a tighter SB calling/raising range.

As played I don't think I am folding.

I'm totally cool with history hand against bow tie, except for the river shove where I would have checked behind (especially after our turn check, and I'm ok with checking the turn when we pick up equity, although others will suggest a double barrel but I think that simply gets too expensive when we whiff the majority of the time and we rarely have as much FE as we think we do).

As for the hand...

I would fold preflop. The price is fairly meh, we're OOP, we're the first caller so there is no guarantee we're going to go multiway, and we're not suited. Pretty easy pass, imo.

I think I might have donked the flop and see who I get action from. Against the deeper stack, I would actually play very cautiously as bottom two pair is nowhere near the nuts on this board and we're too deep to want to gets stacks in. However, against the raiser we are pretty shallow (SPR = ~4) so we'll probably be looking to commit.

As played (checking the flop), I think I only call the raiser's bet because I want to see what the deeper stack does before wanting to build a big pot. As played, we have to snap call the shove as we've already put in a huge percentage of our stack, the SPR is small, the board is drawy and it's possible raiser puts us on a draw / is on the draw himself (ETA: plus our bluffy image from previous hand against bow tie). Although he does show up with a better hand here quite a lot (I'm assuming AJ/AT/KQ are all in the wheelhouse of a weaker preflop raise size).

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Sorry for the misleading previous post. I totally missed the raiser eff stack size.

Y, this is an ez gii, besides a pre-flop fold.

Thanks for your input guys. I've established the following:

I'm surprised that no one has commented on the fish being in the hand. Arguably I'd suggest pre call is ok with the fish in the hand for when we flop gin and he flops top/mid pair and commits. We have to be careful obviously vs the more competent player. We obviously adjust our sb calling/raising range for whoever is in the hand.

Post flop, as played: I check raised with intention of putting all Ax we beat (AK,AQ, Ax suited) under pressure, which is a good chunk of his range, so that we bomb it if a brick peels off and evaluate bad turn cards.

It turns out that my raise-size reading was lol-sample, villain had JJ. He clearly knew how to mix it up by raising so much smaller than usual in late position with a fishy limper (or he is a creature of circumstance and is afraid of JJ).

I am grateful to have the input of many talented poker analysts ITT and would like to hear any additional comments. ~