2/5

Hero has 350$ at 2/5 table. playing up until 1/3 seat opens up. Getting the feeling I have potential to get outplayed at the table, planning to tighten up pre a little and opt for position as often as I can. Although there seems to be a couple players IÂ’d be happy playing pots with.

So far IÂ’ve 3! AQs from SB vs. CO open and BU call and took it down. Also opened 77 UTG which was on the loose side for how I wanted to play, C-bet 844 got called and showed down after it checked down to drag that one vs. one of the presumably weaker players.

Besides those hands this is my 3 hand.
V is the only player limping EP, IÂ’ve seen him do it once already and no one raised him. He has plenty of chips around 2-3k early 60Â’s guy in his own zone.

I should seem like TAG 1/3 player seemingly uncomfortable playing up and on the scared money side of things.

V limps UTG
Hero has KhQh UTG+1
Makes it 20

BU calls
V makes it 85$

I felt like KhQh can probably just fold here, but also felt like this limp raise was significantly wider than youÂ’d see from an OMC, I decided to flat and BU folded

(197$)
Flop 722r

V snap checks
And decided I would do the same with my TT+ that I have.

Turn is another 2
V bets 75$

I think he has A high, I decided I had TT and jammed.

it depends on the limper. if he is "tricky" or "straight forward" he can have aces here or maybe he "hero" calls you with TT. This seems like a high variance spot.

The villain has all pockets better in his limp/3bet range and this is not the game you planned to play before you sat down at the 2/5 table.

Just disciplined fold on the turn.

Massive spew.

You're playing a short stack in a game showing signs that you don't belong at this level. It isn't as if the gulf between 1/3 and 2/5 is so large that the 2/5 player is levels above in their ability. A l/rr is AA with a smattering of KK and maybe AK. On top of that, the Zeebo theorem applies. Nobody folds a FH. So on the very small change that the villain has AK, you can get a fold. Other than that, you get called with 0 outs.

Congrats on hitting the lottery if he folded.

This is a great flop to ck AA/KK. Turn is a punt.

I disagree strongly that this guys limp re-raise is KK+ and some AK. I can still appreciate folding pre being best, but I think he can have pairs down to 99 and probably AQ as well. I bet he can have other bluffs as well maybe AJs or suited connectors. He seemed more solid than just limp raising KK+ and I think he just expected to take it down and hide behind a typical OMC limp raise range which I doubt he had. Having made the call I think my range is pretty strong and his line looked weak post, If I don't try to steal the pot from AK then KQ is probably insta-muck pre. I bet he can have some premiums that check the flop, but I felt like check flop bet 75$ was more weighted towards his AK and I should have plenty of good pairs there so I tried to get AK to fold.

If you believe all of the stuff you just posted, at your stack depth, you should have just jammed preflop.

FWIW I think blockers are a little overrated especially preflop when facing aggressive action, but you block KK, QQ, AK, AQ. That leaves all 6 combos of AA, but if you think he is doing this with 99-JJ, then I want max fold equity preflop given your image.

With that said, I fold preflop to the 3!

You said this was only the second time this guy limped, so maybe he had a premium hand the other time, too. You also said that he limped and there was no raise. This never happens in the 2/5 game I play, so it would make me suspicious that the other players who have more experience with this guy are aware of his tendency to limp-reraise with premium hands.

I do agree, though, that his check behind on the flop is not consistent with a high pair, except for aces or maybe kings. QQ/JJ would have bet, fearing an overcard on the turn.

So let's look at his range of hands that would have played this way.

AA: 6 combos, but let's discount to 4 on the assumption that he would have bet the flop some of the time
KK: 3 combos, discount to 2
QQ: 3 combos, discount to 1
JJ: 6 combos, discount to 2
Lower pairs I discard because they all should be betting the flop.

AKs: 3 combos, and I'll even go with no discount
AKo: 9 combos, but discount to 4 because he would have opened with a raise UTG preflop (should be all the time, but we'll assume otherwise).
AQs: 3 combos
AJs: 4 combos. ick, really? OK, we'll count one of them.

So I have 9 hands that probably won't fold to your bluff, and 11 that possibly will.

If you buy this breakdown, and I can't say I really do, then it was a good bluff. I feel more inclined to say this

AA: 6 combos, but let's discount to 4 on the assumption that he would have bet the flop some of the time
KK: 3 combos, discount to 2
QQ: 3 combos, discount to 1
AKs: 3 combos, and I'll even go with no discount

which gives you 7 that will call you and only 3 that will fold.

Except 99-QQ is never folding to your shove holding a FH. Arguing that he's wider just makes it more spew.

I could easily take this line with AA/KK if I’m the villain and given how not deep you are I would snap this off immediately.

Spew, imo.

Alright good to know,

On a gut level I do agree it was spew, but I thought he had AK.
He folded so it probably was. I showed him the hand and felt good about it, but I guess it was pretty bad overall. Flatting pre might be worse than the shove though, I guess even if I had TT-QQ it is probably overplay to just rip it in there

Fold preflop, easy.