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Simple Pre-flop Decision with Jacks facing a 3-bet from a Smaller Stack Simple Pre-flop Decision with Jacks facing a 3-bet from a Smaller Stack

02-28-2015 , 11:25 AM
$1/2

I just sat down, so no reads on anyone.

V is ~40 y/o with long hair. He looks European, but I haven't heard him speak yet.

Effective Stacks ~$110 (Hero covers)

Pre-flop
Hero raises to $12 with JJ in MP
Old white guy flats in CO
V raises to $32 from the SB (he's got $75 behind)
Hero?
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02-28-2015 , 11:48 AM
Long hair in his 40s could be hippy so I may call.

Hard to say but folding is ok as well.

I like calling with JJ preflop and set mine. You just sat down to table which is another reason to call pre and not raise.
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02-28-2015 , 11:53 AM
Meh. I think all options are on the table here. Against an average middle-class guy of the same age, I fold here very easily. Against a long-haired European playing a half-stack, I'm less eager to fold, especially as it's such a good squeeze spot, but without more reads I still lay it down. How is he dressed? Wearing bling? If he looks flashy, I prob continue. If not, I fold.

If we continue, we could flat or raise to isolate. If we flat and CO continues, we could be purely set-mining. With the dead money in the pot, the likelihood that SB will GII, and potential future bets we could win from CO, we may have enough IOs to do so, but we have to be careful about continuing unimproved. That would be a real RIO situation. If we flat and CO folds, I don't see how we don't GII with SB on a low board, and that's likely a neutral EV overall line at best.

If we raise to isolate, we are looking to flip for COs dead money pretty much at best when called, with the very occasional spazz squeeze with a mid PP that can't fold to the 4 bet, and even less common AT type hand. Most of what continues is crushing us or flipping. Then the question becomes, does he fold often enough for winning the dead money to make up for the negative expectation when called? Readless, I doubt it, but the more of a gambloor he appears, the more I like an ISO to his effective stack size.
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02-28-2015 , 12:07 PM
I'm folding here without better reads on V. A lot of players, at least in the games I play in, only 3 bet with QQ+ and AK if that. you're obviously not doing well against that range. And with his stack size, you don't have the odds to set mine.

If you call here and the flop is like 9 high, do you call a shove? It's just not a nice spot to be in.

With only $12 invested I would fold and look for a better spot.
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02-28-2015 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by battagd1
Long hair in his 40s could be hippy so I may call.

Hard to say but folding is ok as well.

I like calling with JJ preflop and set mine. You just sat down to table which is another reason to call pre and not raise.
Lol at limping Jacks preflop.

I would just ship it here. AK is a big part of his range, so calling is going to be confusing to play on the flop. Folding just seems too tight given stack depth.

I notice your have no info on the caller, but he's an important part of the hand of you and he are deep.
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02-28-2015 , 02:21 PM
readless this is a fold imo. You have no fold equity and you do poorly vs villain's range (which I'd estimate to be JJ+ and AK). Depending on how many combos you include and whether you add AQs, you're at 35-40%. He needs to be raise/calling TT and AQo which seems too loose.
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