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07-30-2013 , 04:06 PM
Hero- Young 20's reg at this room, seen as LAG but can tighten up.

Villain- Old as hell..early 50s Angry foreign woman. Have played with her before very aggressive.

Eff Stacks 170$

5 Handed tables been going for 10 minutes.

Our hand: K J

Raise to 10$ pre. 1 caller.

Flop: K Q 8

V1 Checks we bet 15$

V1 Calls

Turn: 4

V1 donks 15$

Hero Reraises to 45$ (Her line made absolutely no sense and I didn't believe her.)

V1 calls.

River: K

Absolute ****tiest river for us.

V1 leads for 50$

We fold she tables what?
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07-30-2013 , 04:15 PM
If for some reason you are so sure you are ahead on turn raise bigger. You bet 30 into an $80 pot.
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07-30-2013 , 05:13 PM
BBV is

<------ That way.


She's likely got some bull**** diamond. She'll occasionally show up with a K or a Q or something that you beat, but I wouldn't expect it often.
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07-31-2013 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
BBV is

<------ That way.


She's likely got some bull**** diamond. She'll occasionally show up with a K or a Q or something that you beat, but I wouldn't expect it often.
thanks for the directional help bud. Wanted opinions on how v1 played but directions to bbv, even better.
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07-31-2013 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dtrickE
Hero- Young 20's reg at this room, seen as LAG but can tighten up.

Villain- Old as hell..early 50s Angry foreign woman. Have played with her before very aggressive.

Eff Stacks 170$

5 Handed tables been going for 10 minutes.

Our hand: K J

Raise to 10$ pre. 1 caller.

Flop: K Q 8

V1 Checks we bet 15$

V1 Calls

Turn: 4

V1 donks 15$

Hero Reraises to 45$ (Her line made absolutely no sense and I didn't believe her.)

V1 calls.

River: K

Absolute ****tiest river for us.

V1 leads for 50$

We fold she tables what?
Grunch.

i don't understand why we are raising this turn. what about her line doesn't make sense? you raised 5x and you get 1 caller(side note: i don't think i've ever been at a $1/$2 table where you could raise and only get 1 caller ) they check call your cbet on the flop. the ultimate scare card comes and she donks into you. you said she is very aggressive. do you think her leading on the turn is weak? would she normally c/r if she made her flush? if you think her lead is weak then you want to take the pot down right here because our raise is basically a semibluff. our hand is not very strong on this board. you need to raise bigger. you only raise 30 more into 83, meaning she only has to call 30 to win 113. she's probably calling with any . raise something like $70-$75. once she leads $50 into $143 and we have no i think we have to fold.
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07-31-2013 , 08:58 AM
Against an aggressive opponent it is very difficult to range them on the turn here. Flushes, two pair, KX, XX where one is a high diamond and the occasional total air is what I would expect for a generic very aggressive player. Total air discounted because the turn bet is fairly small and isn't really applying any pressure to you. Small flushes and pure bluffs should be betting more here to force out single high diamonds. The total air folds to your raise, and some other hopeless hands like middle or bottom pair with no diamond probably give up also. Other hands call the small raise most of the time.

The river is interesting, it is good for bluffing in the sense that it puts four diamonds on the board, but bad in the sense you could have some strange boat and are more likely to make a disgusted call with trips. After the turn raise most villains give up the pure bluffs here a lot. She bets high flushes and any boats she has for value, smaller flushes for a mix of blocking and value, trip Ks for blocking and everything else some of the time as bluffs. Her range is thus still very wide on river, but I would weight it towards having some sort of diamond a lot and fold most of the time.
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