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Originally Posted by Smoola1981
I was just interested in MDF minimum defense frequency.
I personally think that we have to call river with 5x at a small frequency. Probably using a RNG of some sort, so we don't allow our human biases to impact the true frequency of what we actually do.
I would agree, if hero didn't check-raise the flop, making his hand face-up. Had he check-called flop and turn, he could bet the river for value, or check-call, or even occasionally check-raise.
As played, I'd rather block-bet the river to rep a K, or even K5 exactly, and fold to a raise, than check-call, which puts hero in the position of either folding everything that isn't a boat, or calling, because we think V will always bluff when we check here. Block-betting puts V in a tough spot, trying to figure out if hero will fold 5X or if hero has K5, which is entirely credible.
I'm honestly not sure how applicable MDF is here, the way this was played. Other than K5 exactly, our flop x/r is repping 5X or an extremely over-played KX for value. I have no idea what our bluffs would be, or if we would have anything other than K5, 5X or KX that would constitute a "value" hand, inasmuch as I can't see playing any PP's this way from the SB.
To be fair to hero, I suppose it could be argued that he checked the river with the intention of calling, expecting V to bluff at a high frequency, and perhaps believing that V would take a different line if he actually had KX. I could understand if he reasoned V would bet smaller with KX, to get value from 5X, so a jam is more likely to be a bluff.
Not sure I would agree with it, since I think I'd likely jam KX in V's spot, but I understand it. My reasoning would be exactly the opposite - a small bet looks exactly like KX, whereas a big bet might look bluffy. I doubt I'd be tempted to jam as a bluff, with that line of thinking.