Effective stacks ~250

Hero has been at table less than 30 minutes. Likely has a nitty image due to folding trash including my SB when 6-7 limped. Villains in hand r unknown. Haven't seen either do anything out of line so far.

5 loose passives limp to hero in CO w A9o. Hero raises to 20. I was pretty sure I could get to the flop 2-3 handed given table dynamics. Villain 1 calls OTB and villain 2 calls from the BB. Limpers all fold.

Flop (71) 976xss. BB checks. Hero bets 50. Button thinks for a bit and folds. BB calls.

Turn (171) 10x. BB checks. Hero?

Pretty easy check. Any bet commits you which you don't want. Consider calling depending on his action and sizing.

What do you think villain has?

I would have bet less on the flop, 35-40. then bet turn to fold out flush draws. check the river.

Smaller flop bet makes a turn bet easier. AP I prob check and eval river. You may induce a bluff otr with no spade. Any reads on V? Would he call on a FD with the bad odds you gave him?

After 30 minutes my only reliable read was that he wasn't limping nonstop like many others at the table. I didn't get the sense that he was a total nit though.

smaller preflop raise (or fold pre even..?)

smaller flop raise.

as played would lean more towards pumping the brakes than slamming the gas

So a 'new' guy who hasnt played a hand in 30 minutes raises to 20 and gets 2 callers? Quite the table!!

Tough spot ... yes, slightly smaller Flop bet gives you more room to manuver later in the hand. Even matching the Flop bet leaves less than 50% of the pot behind going to the River.

If you bet, I would bet $50. If you check, then I would call no more than $75 but my gut is that you will see a bet that will suggest you shove/commits you on the River or makes you fold.

I think I am betting $50 here and evaluate his action, planning the c/f any spade River or c/c most 'safe' cards and pray for a showdown. This pot got way to big too fast and once again I don't like the call of the PF raise here by multiple players and then a smooth (quick?)call on the Flop. Your image is going to be shot the first hand you show down. GL

Dont raise pre. B/F turn. Check back most rivers.

The other two options are unacceptable.

is this 2-5 or 1-2 ??

If its 2-5 your line makes much more sense. I was originally reading this assuming 1-2. Raising 4x pre seems fine. Raising 10x (1-2) pre seems sketch

Hate the sizing preflop.

Raising to 12-15 probably accomplishes the same thing.

And what are you repping that is value on the turn? Check and eval river

After 5 limpers in a typical 1-2 game, raising to 12-15 is gonna get a 4handed+ pot way too often, which is a nightmare for this hand. Gotta raise $20-$25 here IF we decide to raise.

ok I see it was 1-2 now. I think without solid reads and being OOP you're slamming the gas in this hand too much.

This is 1-2. But given it were 2-5, I wouldn't raise to just 20 with several limpers in front.

This sums up my thought at the time perfectly. I wasn't crazy about raising. But I wasn't crazy about folding this hand in the CO either when I know I'm ahead of the majority of these limpers' ranges. Limping wasn't seriously considered.

Just dont think its +EV to be raising 10bb with A9 here.

Were not getting called by any worse Aces.

So were losing out on any value in our hand.

Have you ever played live poker?

hand is wp, standard, etc

now check

As played need to check back the turn.

But I just dont see the value here in raising 20 preflop with A9.

Going to end up in a tough spot more often than a profitable spot.

Folding is completely acceptable. You often raise Ace-rag over 5 limpers just cause we're in position? Cant see how this can be even close to profitable in a live setting.

+1

here

Dont know what were trying to prove opening for 20 with A9

If were going to open for 20 with this hand, we pretty much hit a gin flop at TPTK

And now its on 2+2.

Probably why its not that great to open with A9 so strong.

Fold pre

Like everyone else, fold pre. A raise here is really only acceptable if there is 0-1 limpers before it gets to you. With so many limpers already, this hand is going 3-5 ways to the flop. Not something you want.

I like the flop bet, although a smaller bet would be better. Any 7 is coming along with any <psb.

As played, check turn, and evaluate the sizing of any river bet. If no river bets, check is fine because you aren't getting anything out of a missed draw otr.

KEep doing what you've been doing and fold pre. Wait for better spots against these limpy limpers.

If you have weak post flop skills, folding pre is acceptable. But you're in position with a decent hand and dead money in the pot. Raise an raise big as you did. You didn't do anything wrong. Most of the time you're taking it down. Folding pre isn't a losing play but raising is better.