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Originally Posted by roadracerdave
I appreciate all the input, but once again, it looks like I just received a vote for every single possible action possible: fold pre, check/call, shove flop, shove pre.
I usually do top off, but once I hit my rebuy limit for the day, I don't top off and just hope to come back with a short stack.
As played, since I limp/called the flop, I think check/call (to create pot odds) is the best play. Or, even leading small for $20 like @PFunkaliscious said to create a pot and shoving any turn.
Welcome to criticize my logic here. Apparently there is more than 1 way to play a hand.
Check call to create pot odds doesn't make any sense. If you shove and everyone folds, that's a big win. If you shove and people call, it works out the same as if you checked and called.
The reality is that it doesn't really matter what you do on this flop, the vast majority of the time it ends with you allin against 1 or more players and hoping for the best. You can argue like I did that it's better to shove because taking it down is valuable, or you can argue (like PFunk did) that taking it down is a pipe dream and you'd be better off accepting that you need to show your hand down and trying to get maximum money in the pot. Either of these are marginal arguments though, it just doesn't really matter. Most times the outcome will be identical no matter what line you take.
The main takeaway here is that you shouldn't limp this hand and that, having limped, calling is the worst thing to do against the raise. Shoving is fine there because there's a lot of dead money. Folding fine too. Pretty sure everyone ITT is on board with what I'm saying in this paragraph.
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
I'm not even going to discuss postflop because preflop is so butchered.
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Originally Posted by roadracerdave
Why was postflop butchered?