Pretty much means V1 would not have folded to you even if V2 had then if he was reluctant to fold even after V1 had already called you

Then why post?

Do you recognize how bad pre is?

B/c I wanted a consensus on V2 and V1 and since everyone uniformly agrees that their lines are standard, I can reevaluate my play.

Also yes pre is lol bad.

Fair enough. Good luck

Good point. Do you think they're flatting their whole range here, ie overpairs too, or is it just that it's three ways that V1 flats as well?

Thanks, I've been getting absolutely murdered and I'm pretty sure I need to retool my style

I think you genuinely need the tough love given. You don't have a style. You just spew.

Being super LAGgy has never been my style, but I do have a few friends that are LAGgy and pretty competent overall. They've always told me that when they go on stretches that more resemble being a spew-tard, they make a conscious decision to get back to a basic TAG style for a period of time and then they slowly add LAG attributes back into their game. For them, they say a lot of times they don't see just how insane their style has gotten until they take a step back and can objectively watch a lot of these in-game situations play out without actually being involved in them.

The good thing about LLSNL is that the player pool is generally so bad that you can always revert to a TAGish style and be profitable. It can be a boring way to play and your ceiling isn't nearly as high, but if your LAG style has gone wrong then it's an easy and simple style to fall back to, and it allows you to stabilize your game and log some consistent winnings.

Pre is a total spew.

What a ****ing luckbox. This is bad play that gets rewarded and then rationalized post facto as good play. No, it's just BS that worked in your favor in a big pot (the ones that matter).

If I sound bitter, it's because I am. I run into this bull**** from LAGtards on a regular basis. They keep 3-betting and clicking buttons, but somehow fluke in weird ways when you have them by the balls.

NH.