Hero- really good looking known winner. Anyone who's not a degen stays out ofmy way. There are at least 2 degens in this hand so image means very little. Stack $350

BB- Really loose passive fish who has no problem calling off 75% of his stack with crap. He's a classic 1/2 fish. He looks like Tim Allen. $150.

UTG+1- Stuck donk. Down about $200 but really should be down far more. He's a little mroe aggro than average but really doesn't know what he's doing. He looks like how I imagine Nelly will look like in 15 years. Stack $250

MP- Small framed white guy with a goatee. He clearly thinks he is good at the game and clearly is not any good at the game. I saw him call a shove with a T on a AKQJhhh board (I was shocked that it was actually good). He also called a PFR from me for $20 with j9o and stacked off for $350 on a 996 flop (I had K9. River 6. F me). He looks like a petulant Bilbo Baggins. Stack $400

Btn- Getting drunker by the minute. Playing every hand. Raising sometimes, and generally just throwing his chips away $25 at a time. He looks like Ricky Williams will in a couple of years after the munchies catch up to his gut. Stack $200

Hand:

preflop- Old run down Nelly makes it $15. Bilbo calls. Ricky calls. Hero looks down at 7c7s in sb and calls. Tim calls.

Flop- 224 ($75)
Hero bets $45. Tim folds. Nelly folds. Bilbo folds. Ricky calls.

Turn- 2249
Hero checks. Ricky bets $45.


Preflop I think is probably OK since my chances of stacking someone are really high if I hit a set.

Flop I'm not sure. I think I'm ahead of every single players range except for maybe Nelly, but even his range is still pretty weak and the only thing I think that will ever call my bet is a 4x and PP -33. So, my thinking was leading out would protect me from all the over card nonsense they all had and getting called would almost certainly let me know I needed to slow down. I was prepared to stop if Nelly stayed in and proceed cautiously with anyone else coming along who bet after me. I was amused by Ricky's turn sizing, but was having a hard time finding parts of his range that I beat that would bet.

Why do you always put hero good lookin and known winner.

Try to view your future line. Call pre from the blinds, lead flop into the pfr, and check turn. It doesn't look right at all.

known winner- truth

really good looking- even more truth

Given the image you have put Ricky on, has he been bluffing at pots (as generally drunks tend to do)?

There's not much info to go on here but I'd call and check/reevaluate on river. I don't expect a float + 2 barrels at this level.

Really bad fish might call that particular flop with anything and then decide they must be good when you check, or maybe he just picked up a draw to go with his garbage.

Bet/folding the turn might have been the way to go.

I think there's a very good chance someone might float the flop in position and bluff the "overcard" turn. Especially if the 9 of spades gave him a FD. I'd call and reevaluate on the turn.

1) Known winner is hard to do unless you tell everybody how much your winning.

2) What does that mean,do you look like a model, maybe Patrick Antonius?

1. im a reg along with 75% of the player pool and they know me.

2. Let's just say your mom was impressed.

I was being serious you are out of line now.

Not a good spot

I'd assume one of these clowns has 2x before thinking they were implementing some elaborate bluff at this game

Don't be a dbag when asking for people's help.

What's your purpose of leading out on flop? If it's because you know villains will float with high cards a lot of the time, then it's a good lead, other wise, just check/re-evaluate. On the turn, I would continue to bet. You're getting value from 4s, and drunkie may call again with overcards. The 9 should not really affect the hand.

dont like check turn. . . As played raise to 100

I'm far from the crushing the game professional...and I would float this flop and bluff the turn against someone I thought would c-bet the flop frequently.

...not saying it's right, just saying it's a possibility

I agree with your line but not the reasoning.

I don't think the villain has any concept of the term "floating" and considering the hero lead into 4 people without the preflop lead, this would be a bad spot to do it anyway.

I just think a typical fish looks at that board and thinks "no one has anything" and the the hero checks and he thinks "see, I knew it".

This is standard "no set no bet" for me. We are betting into 4 players with a weak hand.

I don't mind calling pre here, but this is a good example of what position buys you. The guy who acts last gets to bet his weak trash here, after everyone checks. You're just wading into the field and hoping.

agree, i liked " TAG professional winner with socks in flip flops" better.

OP you need to provide pics because your good looks will obv create a distraction and change the meta of the game

Yeah, to really analyze the hand I need to know if we're talking about "good looking" or "good looking by casino standards."

C/call flop

As played c/call turn and eval river

I agree

*grunch*
I'm still waiting to show up in one of these villain descriptions.

Preflop I like. You've got great IO to stack one or more of those guys, especially multiway.

Not a fan of the flop bet. I think you're likely ahead of all of their ranges (including Nelly). But the problem is that you're likely getting called by at least one of them, Tim may call with BS, same for Bilbo, definitely Ricky. Then against two of them there are so few turn/rivers that I want to get more money into the pot with. Any BW and you're probably beat.

This is the problem with being OOP ... if one of them "doesn't believe you" and accidentally floats you, you're facing a spot on the turn where you've got a pot of $165 and an effective stack of $140, but no clearly good way to proceed.

I have a hard time believing that the 9 helped his hand. Have you seen him drunk-spaz bluff into weakness with overs or a FD before? I'd suspect that he would. Since I don't want to give him the chance to check behind on a river, or fold part of his bluffing range if we lead then, I'd really consider shoving here (especially if he's prone to calling off).

Grunch
Pre is good. Set mining.
Flop, not sure, I would usually check/fold with this many in the pot. There are 8 cards in the other players' hands. 4.3% chance each of those cards is a deuce = 34% chance someone has trips. This assumes (not a great assumption, but off by how much?) that these players are equally likely to play hands this way that have a deuce as hands that don't. Say they play 3/4ths as often with a deuce, so there is a 25% chance someone has trips. That said, there is a 75% chance noone has trips. I often shut down with this many people in the pot. I do like your play to charge those drawing to overs though.
OTT, this is a very small bet, as you said. Maybe a 4 trying to get thin value? I think a 9 would usually bet more. Shouldn't be a flush draw since his is in position. For this price, I would call, and check any river besides a 7. Prolly call the river, now that we've gotten there.

lol, in the pre-internet sense, laughed out loud

I'm okay with leading flop as long as you b/f turn too. Given V turn sizing, I call and evaluate on river.