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05-31-2011 , 03:38 PM
Table was quite loose preflop with 2-3 limpers barring action.


Seat #2 was a live one who barely knew how to play. He is a loose passive player who rarely bet, usually called and never raised preflop.

Seat #8 was a LAG who wouldn’t stop betting post flop unless he was faced with a raise. He limped a lot of pots and got short stacked pretty quick, which then made him gamble quite a bit. Later on he switches to my immediate left when a seat opens up and starts putting on a straddle.

NLHE $1-$2 (9 players)

Hero $240
MP1 (seat #2)$65
UTG (seat # 8) $140

HERO is dealt 2 2.

UTG limps, one fold, Hero limps, MP1 limps, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.
POT--$10 (5 players)
FLOP-2 3 4
3 checks, HERO bets $8, MP1 calls, sb folds, BB folds, UTG raises to $25, Hero raises to $55, MP1 RRAI for $65, UTG folds, HERO calls $10.
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05-31-2011 , 04:03 PM
Not sure what your question is, but we're never folding a set here. If MP1 shows up w/bigger set or straight then FML and be glad he was short stacked.
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05-31-2011 , 04:04 PM
Just dont fold.
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05-31-2011 , 04:10 PM
I didn't pose a question because I thought that the flop was pretty standard even though it's a draw heavy flop in a limped pot. It was preflop that I wasn't sure about. In these types of games, should I be folding PP22s-44s from EP or when it's folded around to us in MP?
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05-31-2011 , 04:20 PM
Usually these games are limpfests so yeah, I set mine here all day. Often you get a feel for the flow of a table after awhile and kinda know the chances of it getting limped around after you. If MP1 raised after you preflop you'd have to fold (unless got abunch of callers).
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05-31-2011 , 04:49 PM
I play pokcet pairs for a limp or if there is a small raise with lots of callers.

here limping in depends how I feel about the players yet to act behind me. Do they raise a lot? Or they aggressive? do they like to limp also etc....if they table lets you limp with pocet pairs and sc's they go ahead and limp, sometimes raise to iso in lp.

But with pocket 2's I want everyone in, because if I dont hit a set I dont care as much in MW pots but when I do hit my set and there is 5 other players there is a good chance someone has hit something and I might get paid.
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05-31-2011 , 06:02 PM
LMAO. typical 1/2 BS thread. You're 70 damn BBs deep, don't fold.

Sorry you ran into a cooler
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05-31-2011 , 06:15 PM
Sounds like the player who was most likely to raise preflop already limped in front of you. I don't see anything wrong with limping if there's no one left behind you who is likely to raise (and I've seen plenty of games like these where there's a pf raise on only 30% of pots for entire table).

Looks like it worked out and you got the situation you wanted, i.e. a cheap flop with lots of limpers. Too bad that MP1 had A5/56 We've all been there.
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05-31-2011 , 06:41 PM
Even vs a made straight you have decent equity. Anyway, there is no way you can fold this at any point - the aim is to get the money in when hitting the set, otherwise there's no point in set mining 120BB deep really.
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05-31-2011 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by masaraksh
LMAO. typical 1/2 BS thread. You're 70 damn BBs deep, don't fold.

Sorry you ran into a cooler
Again, it was more of a preflop question as I had stated earlier. Any question on the flop would not include folding. It would be more of how to play it after being reraised if anything.
Didn't run into a cooler.
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05-31-2011 , 06:54 PM
Just raise the flop here and be willing to get it in.

Yes, you should be set mining with 22. It's a moneymaker when it hits. Yes, you can run into a higher set. You can run into a higher set with 88 too.

I hate getting 22 when a shortstack raises. I do occasionally fold low PPs to stacks of less than $80 or so. Especially if I don't see anyone else getting involved.
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06-01-2011 , 01:42 AM
unless its HU vs a shortstack preflop its profitable, if its multiway limp preflop with limpers behind and there is a raise thats not crazy its profitable to call.
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06-01-2011 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Xnr3p
unless its HU vs a shortstack preflop its profitable, if its multiway limp preflop with limpers behind and there is a raise thats not crazy its profitable to call.
yeah, if you KNOW everyone is calling. if it's been a table with a lot of limp/raise/fold scenarios, you lose value.
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