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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
Preflop looks ok. I tend to raise a little bigger, esp if 12 is getting four way action. A lot of times I start at 15 and add 2 per limper so here might have made it 17, esp with a station to me immediate left (in OP, you state she's on your right but I think you mean left).
Flop: I think you have to raise here. Don't let someone else define the action in this hand esp since I don't think that his donk bet is the right size. I would click it back or maybe make it 75. You don't state V2s stack and that's important here bc if V2 is short stacked, I def raise his flop bet with no fear. If he's deep, I possibly raise/fold. But by just calling, you lack info on his hand and give a nice price to all draws behind you. If you make it 75, V1 isn't getting a good price AND when she shoves the turn, you're getting odds to draw to your full house against her possible flush.
Turn: is V1 ever able to make a move here? Would she bet the heart knowing its a scare card? Is she the kind of person who might not notice the flush and just be betting her own relative hand strength? The turn obvi improved your hand but put the possible flush out there. I don't think you can bet fold because any bet commits you against her stack but I do think, as played, I might bet 50. If she shoves, you're getting four to one from the pot and have to call, and you remove a lot of her bluffs. As played, you check the turn and she goes all in. If your read is that she has the flush here, you're not getting the right price and I guess it's a puke fold but I personally have a lot of trouble folding top set on the turn.
This hand seems to hinge on the flop: I think you have to raise this flop. The online player taking stabs at live play bets out -- that could be a very wide range, from A9 - 97, and lots of suited combos and draws. You have to raise that bet because as played, you gave V1 great immediate pot odds to continue with any FD.
Indeed V2 is on my direct left. V1 covers me with around 450.
I believe also I should raise the flop here around 90 to 100. I think this was my first mistake.
OTR I am around 100% sure that she has exactly AQh and only that hand given the fact that the Kh is on the board. If I had raised the flop I dont think she would put her money in with a draw as she played a little bit scared money.But I have also difficulty folding top set. I know that I am not getting the right price and I am beating myself for not raising the flop against the donk lead.
The online guy though is playing reasonably well the previous sessions and I was worried that he would donk lead with a set (I would probably do that also :-) to play for stacks).
That was my reasoning behind my flat call so I can evaluate the turn. Obv a wrong move as a raise/fold line I believe is best here.
What do you think V1 range is here? I dont think he has such a weak hand like A9 as he would fold it OOP given that he is dominated a big percentage of the time by my range and V2's and he knows that.
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