Looking to see what has worked for others in the past and what kinds of false tells you may pull out against certain types of Villains for the reaction you wanted to induce (call/fold/raise, etc).

I'll start with a story from the 2/5 @ Borgata, AC:

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I open with the QJdd, get 1 caller to my left who hung on after my flop c-bet.

I check the turn on an x-8c9c-x board. He bets $50. I call.

River is Td, giving me stone nuts.

I open shove for $210.

He goes into the tank. Looks me up and down. I'm staring at the middle of the table not blinking. I realize I look strong.

He's taking a while to decide... so I decide to induce a call using:

"The nervous leg shake".

Very subtly start shaking my leg and blinking a little more.
He notices.

He takes two black chips and two reds and sets them to the side.
Finally he calls, and goes a little ape **** when I announce "nuts", table my hand, scoop the pot and pick-up for the 10/20 LHE game that just opened up.

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So let's hear-em 2+2!!

Hands where you think you induced an opponent to make an action based on the tell you gave off.

If you have some that backfired on you, I'm sure those would be interesting too!!

I find the more talking I'm doing hurts me rather than helps me.

I purposely did the shaking hands thing once and knocked over some of my own chips.

The lean in and back... Then look away has worked more than once...

The wince and stare at the crappiest card on the board works... The make eye contact and look away... Idk I play alot of fish... Against regs this rarely works and I just try to keep still.

Reverse tells are pretty obvious to any semi-competent player, so I'd just concentrate on bet-sizing, as you can induce whatever action you want by sizing appropriately.

Im a little confused here...you said you thought you looked strong because you did the frozen stare?? this is a sign of weakness not strength.

My confusion goes even deeper when you say you then counter balanced with the "nervous leg shake" to appear weak??? The busy lower body tell is a tell of strength not weakness. the premise being that players can keep their upper body still because they dont want to give anything away but their legs give away their true emotions because they are happy about their hand they start "dancing" or get "happy feet". This tell though is only reliable after you view that the person does not normally have nervous tendencies...aka they are shaking thier legs at random times, in between hands ect...

1/2 NL @ parx ($400 ES)

I'm 24 and the table was upset that I had a lot of non-SD winnings, saying that someone should "stop letting the kid bluff us." Limps around to me in the CO and I find AdAh and raised to $17. Folds to BB (also younger) who raises to $45. Folds to me and I 4-bet to $100. He calls.

Flop was 247, so nothing scary for my hand. He checks, I bet $150 and he goes in the tank and starts staring at me. I put my head in my hands, then slid my fingers apart so I was able to see what he was doing. He asks if I have aces? I said "that's what I'm representing. Do you have aces?" "No, I've got kings." Then I take my card protectoir off, look at my bullets, and took a sip from my drink. He shipped with AKss.

LOL, I love 1/2

Whether I'm bluffing or not, I tend to lean back and riffle three chips in my right hand. I'll also look around, take a sip of water, whatever. One thing I never do is try and be dead still.

that being said, I have given off the 'big swallow" fake tell and gotten a few calls. not sure if it was because of that, though.

I just try to do the exact same movement no matter whether I'm bluffing vs got the nuts. This is usually left elbow on table, holding chin in hand, and continually stacking / restacking a small amount of chips with my right hand (or right hand protecting/fiddling with cards if I have no chips), simply staring down at the actions of my right hand.

To be honest, my guess is that is has no affect whatsoever.

I have tried false tells before and gotten a call/fold I wanted but it is hard to be sure if/how much the tell factored into the opp decision. If I notice a player being overly observant (staring down opp), then I will look for a good spot to give him false information.

Another minor false tell that seems to work is the hesitation or act like u want to bet but decide not to play. U can use these when u want a free card oop. I have induced opp to check hands they would normally bet like tpwk.

I think it's a waste of time and makes us think we are smarter than we are.

If you want to sell the best tell, just play like a monkey and it will all fall into place.

I got doubled up once when I deliberately looked at my cards immediately after flopping the nut flush. Never saw the opponents cards, though, so I don't know if they would have paid me off anyways.

When I really want a call in a huge pot and the villain is tanking I have covered my mouth with both my hands and acted stiff, seems to work inducing hero calls.

Actually "false tells" can be considered "angles". Now, I'm not agains angles because I have couple nice and cool ones of myself. But here is a story about some false tells that we are talking about here, I got this one from a old-timer friend of mine.

$5/$10, ES=$3,000, at the V in Vegas,

I'm on the button with AA. There is a raise upfront of $60, two callers in the middle and I 3bet for $300 to go. The dude upfront repops me to 4bet of $1,200. Everybody else folds and the action is on me. I think for a while and start my hustler story:
"You know, when I use to drink in the past and got drunk at the table, I used to shove this hand when some another dude repops me" ...lol, lol.., after a little more thinking I shove it all in. So far this story got me other dudes to call about 75% of the time. I got calls from KK,QQ,AK,JJ and even AQ. Now, I don't know if I got the calls because of the stupid story or some other reason because I just pull this maybe 10 times good results. lol, lol, lol.........,

AT,

I don't think KK needed your story to call...

I might have to try some of these. I usually just start looking around.

That's a G story AT. This is a good thread so far let's keep it going. I haven't really ventured to deeply into this yet at the table. As I'm learning more and more about tells/mannerism/ how to incorporate them into my game. But I'm ready to start testing the waters with some of these seemingly fool proof ideas. Definitely going to use AT's story and some other idea's off here. What are good tell books other than Caro's Book of Tells?

Maybe KK will call. I don't know if a real TAG and nit will play $3000 on two kings after so much action going around them, but I guess most dudes will do it. I did it last weak twice and I break even. One time I snap a king on the turn and the other time I run into AA and lost.And today I run set over set and played for stacks

AT,

fake tells are the best!

Great replies so far everyone! I like the drunk story tell. I may have fallen for that one before!! haha. Now I just tell myself: "speech = strong". It's usually fairly correct.

I think a good strategy can be to watch for common tells in your game that villains give off when they are bluffing, but still get called. Then use that tell when you want a pay-off.

For example, I play a lot of LHE and in my games I see alot of players making a final river bet and then doing this:

They will usually take their chip(protector) off their cards, grip their cards and then slide them out a little bit and look at you; suggesting they want you to hurry up and fold so they can muck and take down the pot. I've noticed very often when they do this that they have a weak holding and I now tend to call.

Some may even leave their $1 chip protector on top and make the same move, suggesting this will be the tip for the dealer after I fold. I've found that they usually have even less of a holding when this is seen.

I've now started to do this when Villains' are taking a moment on the river to decide and I know I've got them beat. It's gotten me a few calls from A high, so I think it tends to work pretty well.

Of course the key here is that this is a common tell that is recognized to be weak in the games I play. If this tell isn't common in your game, your results may vary.

Actually, I think this is a pretty bad thread. The necessary ingredients for a false tell to work are:

1. The villain is observant.
2. The villain knows what the tell means conventionally.
3. You're able to naturally do the tell so it doesn't look fake.
4. The villain hasn't seen you do this before.

In LLSNL, most villains aren't observant. Most of them have no clue what a tell means and even the technically good ones are probably on-line transplants in the US and don't understand or look for tells. Unless the person has poor personality skills, people can often tell the difference between acting and being natural.

And finally, you get to do this exactly once against these opponents. Unless you're so good as to be able to mimic what you do normally in some situations, they'll know (especially a week later) that this is your standard head fake play. Even worse, you pick something else and they won't believe that either.

For the moment, I'll keep it open. But if people want to add their stories, they need to let us know how they covered the above points. If there are more stories about how you got a call from some random, I'll just lock this up.

This is one of the most common and reliable tells. Player acts like he's going reaching for chips in order to get the other person to check. Whenever I see someone doing this on purpose, I will bet even with air since I know they want a free card.

This is actually an effective reverse tell to use vs players that might be perceptive. Got owned once by a very good player who did this on purpose when he had aces to induce me to bet with air. I had not played with him at the time and didn't know he was good.

One of the funniest hands I've ever seen happened on a very draw heavy board where all 3 players in the hand were trying to buy free cards by reaching for chips. It was comical watching all of them look like they were going to bet then the street checks through. Same thing next street.



The only good reverse tell I have ever used successfully is a play on the "strong is weak" tell. Usually when players puff up and act strong they are weak. I have done this with my physical mannerisms when I am in fact very strong and then overbet. So I guess I am using a reverse tell where "strong is strong."

The reason I can get this to work is that the "strong is weak" physical tells can sometimes look like pretty bad acting. So using really bad acting in your "stong is strong" is pretty easy.

Obv for this to work you need to play against a player who understands strong is weak and you also need to not have too much history so he doesn't know that you would never ever do such a cheesy acting job to try to get a fold from him. This doesn't happen all that often.

I think the reason this works is exactly because V's at this level are both unobservant and suspicious. If they notice a tell at all, they think it's a sign you're scared, and therefore that you want a fold. It hardly matters what tell it is, or what it's usually a sign of. I've seen V's call before because they noticed shaking hands, and even said "your hands were shaking, so I figured you were scared," even though that is a classic tell of strength.

I've used the chip stack fumble a couple of times, and it seems to sometimes get marginal hands to call, but I think it was just giving them an excuse to call when they wanted to anyway. I have never seen a tell make a call that was an obv fold otherwise.

Yeah, this is all true. That's why the only real way to use false tells are if you're playing with strangers and you know the strangers are fairly decent. The most common times I've faked tells have been in tournament situations, when I've only been playing with them a little bit and they know nothing about me. Any false tells you give them (assuming they're decent) they will have to take at face value because chances are just so much morally you're a fish than you are a good player. (one reason I avoid doing chip tricks when playing with strangers; one less clue that you are experienced.)

I've faked the 'high strength tell' of doing a little shrug and saying something like 'guess I'll bet it' when I want a fold. Usually get an eye roll and a fold, sometimes face up of a decent hand.

I've faked being scared to make eye contact with a player after I bet, which is a typical tell for weakness. So I do it sometimes when I'm making a big value bet. Against experienced live players this can work very well.

As the mod points out though, once you get discovered displaying a false tell, the jig is probably up and at the very least you should realize how your image has changed amongst the players who were paying attention. Just realize that good players, if they see you doing this, will probably know how to react to you in future, even if it just means disregarding your physical/verbal behavior.

This is my go to move!! I find it works best when vills staring you down and you replace a nickel or whatever with a dollar chip and then proceed. I've absolutely had success w/ this.

if the other guy's a tough lookin dude you can stare him down when you want a call, this will work against older alpha male types too, i.e. ex jocks, rich dudes sporting an Armani suit.. His inner macho-ness will tell himself, this punk ain't gonna get away with bluffin' me..

I wouldn't suggest this against gang affiliation types though lol

I'm more surprised that KK didn't instafold when you said that. That's a textbook example of the "beware the speech" tell, when someone makes a point to say something to look weak, but then shoves.