Let's shoot for the stars. Thanks to Coronaids, American Aidslines will space out the rows wide enough to accommodate human legs.

That waiver will provide less protection than sniffing through cheerleader unis.

The best hope is that once the lockdowns go on for a while and the virus spread gets as small as possible, you reopen the economy with a system of mass testing and tracing that will keep it contained. That is, whoever wants to get tested gets tested, people who are found positive isolate and people who have come into contact with the carriers also get tested and are isolated as necessary.

For this, you need technological infrastructure in a form of a phone app or something similar and also a ton of manpower doing the tracing and isolating.

If you can implement this effectively - and this really needs to be a nationwide effort because you don't want a few states that aren't taking this seriously undermining the efforts of the rest- you can become like Korea which manages to run the economy while keeping the virus contained.

If that doesn't happen, then you are faced with a cycle of economy reopenings and lockdowns as the virus comes back every time a few weeks after you reopen the economy. This also means even more heated debates, as we would have to be facing tough choices between unnecessary deaths and extreme economic hardship.

In case you were wondering, the federal government under the leadership of our glorious leader is doing nothing to implement a test and trace regime. Instead our glorious leader itches to reopen the economy because he's afraid that all of this jeopardizing his reelection. This is an instance where the interests of our glorious leader are pretty well aligned with the nation's interests, but unfortunately our glorious leader has the patience of a toddler and behaves like a chess player who can't see two moves ahead.

Perhaps we ll get lucky with a deus ex machina either in the form of a cure, or the virus not liking hot weather or discovering that the virus isn't as deadly as we thought.

All in all, this whole thing is as close to FUBAR as anything we 've experienced in our lifetimes.

Again agree with a lot of what you said but still doesn’t really answer the question. When will we be satisfied that that efficacy of the current plan has done all it can? Is there a number of deaths per day the CDC wants to see, number of new infected, etc? I’ve not seen an end framed up at all. Do we just go on until Donnie has had enough? That’s the part that bothers me tbh

In theory, the lockdowns should be lifted when the number of cases has dripped into such a low number that's deemed low enough to be managed and there is a plan to manage the virus spread.

In practice, since there's no real plan for test and trace and I don't think there's going to be a real national plan, lockdowns will be lifted on ad hoc basis by governors, partly based on economic pressures, partly based on the idea that we ve gone through the worse and have ridden the curve to the end, partly based on the idea that we ve stockpiled enough equipment to deal with a new surge of infected.

Since without a proper plan, there's no guaranty the virus won't return as strong as before, I expect many restrictive policies to remain in place. For example, it's highly likely we won't get any fans on sporting events this year at all.

If that still doesn't sound as concrete, as you want, I guess the point is that there's a ton of uncertainty on how this is going to play out. Personally, I am far more bearish than bullish on how it's going to play out, though you never know if there's going to be a stroke of good luck.

That is a cute little tidbit. My favorite part is how we've simultaneously cured heart disease and stroke during this crisis. IT'S A MIRACLE!

You do realize that people with preexisting health conditions that test positive for Corona are being counted as Corona deaths and not [INSERT UNDERLYING CAUSE]? So the guy that has a bum ticker that's been in and out of the hospital and is living on borrowed time dies from a heart attack and tests positive for Corona gets counted as a virus death. The guy that dies from influenza and isn't tested for Corona because he exhibited Corona like symptoms gets counted as a virus death.

There is a difference between dying FROM Covid and dying WITH Covid.

So what you're saying is, we're doomed? Because it's pretty certain that a whole lot of people who are facing isolation will say "**** this nonsense" and keep going out (unless they are actually experiencing heavy symptoms).


And let's not even talk about MUH STATES RIGHTS.

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I'm absolutely convinced that Harbaugh is going to do whatever he can to have a football season. He just isn't the decision maker on this, despite what he may think. If you have any doubts, ask why Coach K at Duke wasn't able to get March Madness off this year.

I'm not saying it won't happen. It is out the NCAA's hands though.

That's how it started to spread where I am. One guy had been tested and told to isolate. Instead, there was a party he wanted to go to, so he went.

It goes without saying that he worked in a hospital and was fully aware what the potential impact would be.

Pretty sure, but don't quote me, Coach K said that Duke will not be participating in the NCAA tournament if there were to be one when the **** started to hit the fan.

If the economy were to open up by the fall, why wouldn't it be in the NCAA's hands? I know it's possible we'll still be stuck inside, but it doesn't seem very likely. If there are no laws against gathering, I don't see why the NCAA and NFL wouldn't be able to say the season goes on.

Yeah the goal is not be like Korea. And while many 'progressives' quietly dream of a world where the government teams up with silicon valley to tag and monitor citizens, choosing who has freedom and who must be confined; that's not the goal of normal people either.

So when the Spanish flu end? It ended when it faded away and people drifted back to life. We already lucky because corona isn't as lethal as first feared. It came and it will go regardless if grant Trump absolute power.

Well 99%+ are doomed to survive.

That's cute that you keep making examples as if that represents 100% of what is happening. Stay ignorant my man.

The truth hurts. Keep choosing fear over data.

Wonder if the conferences have anything to say about it.

I think Fauci contradicted Birx. I know Fauci didn't advise during a negligent response to a viral epidemic in the 80's.

Lol keep choosing memes and lionking stories over facts because you can't hold a coherent position. Love the doubledowns on your ignorance.

Well the conferences obviously want a season

Looking at different threads on 2p2 it's pretty clear people are losing their minds as everything is just going in circles. Don't you ppl have spouses to argue with?

You mean facts like in addition to curing heart disease and stroke during this lockdown we can now add 'Pneumonia' to the list?

They could hold practice, evaluate the talent level and then vote on who has the best team. IT's not that far removed from how the SEC gets 8 teams in the top 10.

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What do you think is the point of arguing in the 4rum?

Do they? They didn't seem to want basketball tournaments last month.

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They got pressured into not having them. It was a PR move; they did everything they could to have them.

Football makes more money anyways.

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The Australian rugby league org, the NRL announced this week that we’ll be playing games without crowds by end May.

They’re facing bankruptcy so that’s what they want to do but....they haven’t consulted the state and federal govts who haven’t agreed to this because it would be against their current guidelines OR their broadcast partners who don’t want to pay for games without crowds - we had the first two weeks of the season and contact sports without crowds is almost unwatchable