5/5 NLHE 4 handed (yes)

Table - about to break, everyone is down, Banana the least, only 100 or so. We're playing auf schweiz and the game is super passive and sticky but we're not getting many hands. Everyone wants to make something happen and opens have been unusually large in general (30-60 CHF over 5 BB) and even larger in the last two orbits (70-100 CHF).

Banana - Has 915 CHF from his 1k BI. Has the nittiest image at the table by far. BTN. 915.

V - MAWG. Very white collar. Very european. Mid-50s. Looking back on a life of success and fortune. VPIP about 80%. Donking a ton on all sorts of flops. Donking turn when flop checks through almost 100%. On my immediate right so that's nice. Covers. UTG/MP/LJ/HJ/CO.

HH - 3 limps to H (including V in CO) who sees K Q and opens to 30, only V calls. HU IP. Flop 9 6 3 check check, Turn 6 V bets 30, H calls (early in session and no reads), River 9 Check check and V has K 5 for a chop.

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V opens 105 over the 5 CHF BB, H sees A 9 and calls, SB folds ..seat open..., BB (barely knows how to play poker, bets 5x pot when he has it and check calls otherwise, 100% VPIP) also calls. 3-ways IP.

Flop 315 - 9 5 2

BB checks, V bets 200, BB folds out of turn wanting to see the last hand and grabbing a rack, Banana? You've got 810 back and the pot is 515...

Clear shove.

First instinct is to shove. Second instinct is to let V have enough rope to hang himself.

Third instinct, we have TPTK, but 9 isn't likely to be top pair by the river, so we might want to max pressure this V now, rather than rely on our hand holding up or improving on a later street.

So...yeah, if the table is about to break, and knowing BB has said auf wiedersehen out of turn, I think we need to dial it up to eleven, and jam on Blofeld right now.

The way you played is probably better, but I would just fold A9s to an 18xBB open.

Sounds like a phenomenal game for the stakes.

My problem is I know this guy is a fish, but when he opens 21xBB cold, it could be because it is the 2nd to last hand, and he thinks people will call anything. So he could have a big hand. If he has AK/AQ, you probably won't get much action on this flop. If he has 99-AA, you are crushed. He could have 97s or something, a flush draw, or some bluff. I just wouldn't be thrilled about stacking off here, and would fold preflop.

3bet or fold pre.
Size is weird vs. stack, I guess we can min. raise but probably just shove or fold.


You flopped the nuts, for a call with this hand at this SPR, do whatever you want. Probably shove or call, not much play left and V is probably calling all better but might just shrug call AK/AQ etc. (it's 610 into 715) which is destroyed now.

Interesting hand because we're playing short-handed, and V sounds wildly loose. Doubtful V knows theory well enough to understand this flop is better for you as the caller than him as the PFR, or that he understands what ranges to play in this set-up. No idea what a 21bb open is supposed to represent from a V like this in a game like this.

If we think he's fishy, he might take this size with his big over-pairs and his flush draws. Doubtful he's got 2P or top set, so his value range looks like 55/22 and over-pairs, and his bluffs would be flush draws, or maybe total air.

Our ace blocks some of his combos of AA, and gives us some additional outs against his other over-pairs. Plus we've got backdoor flush and wheel draws. We're about a 3:1 dog against red KK. We have him crushed if he's playing a worse 1P combo this way, which seems entirely possible.

I dunno. If we think he's only calling a raise with better, and folding everything worse, I could see just calling, and seeing what he does on the turn. If he checks turn on a brick, I'd think that's the green light to bet. If he barrels 2/3 pot or more, I think we might have to fold, unless we've improved. If he bets half pot or less, I think we need to call.

If we think he's calling a raise with worse, then we should probably raise.

This is the problem with getting involved with a speculative hand like A9s, that can't really smash the flop with a huge draw. If our calling range pre has a lot of better hands in it, we could get here with some over-pairs and sets, pushing TPTK with backdoor draws towards the bottom of our range, making this a fold when he c-bets 2/3 pot.

Result:

Nice hand.

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Terrible play postflop with AK. However, that goes along with what I was saying that the huge raise preflop is often a big hand. He could easily have 99+ and is more likely to cbet large and call a shove with those. It seems like kind of reckless play with A9.

I mean the river play was def. good.

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AK, with the NFD which has 52% vs. QQc and which still has 45% vs. us after we called 21bb preflop with 29% pure equity and hit our 3 outer when dominated.

Assuming you mean flop play, as I believe hero jammed flop.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or sincere.

Is hero's jam here good? Seems like V can snap him off with all the over-pairs, sets (if he has any 55/22 in his range), and as you rightly point out, his flush draws, which have good equity here.

I think your range here is more weighted towards sarcastic.

Oh, i missed he had the nfd. It shows how bad OP's play was. Sure villain was a donk, but when he makes it 21xBB cold, he probably has a big hand. When he cbets 2/3 pot, he may also have something. You get allin and you are either flipping or more likely crushed.

I don't care if it is the 2nd to last hand and the opener is a fish. I would stay out of the way of a 21xBB open. 3-bet top 2 or 4 hands and only playing something like AQs+, 99+. If it is going to go several way, you can call with any pp. I personally would usually fold to normal raises with A9s, except against a late position open or multiway and deep.