1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

Table - awful boring loose passive limpfest. Every hand going 6 ways. Even 20$ pre only getting it about 4 ways. One 3-bet every 2 hours or so.

V1 - fat loose passive man. Losing player. Limps and calls a lot pre, cold calls 3-bets. Not the biggest station but about 50% VPIP. 415$ BB.

V2 - Mostly irrelevant, loose passive pre, fit-or-fold post. Covers. CO.

I have about 700$ in the HJ.

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Folds to H who sees 9 6 and opens HJ to 10, V2 calls, V1 raises to 30, H calls, V2 calls saying "in for a penny in for a pound".

Flop 90 - K 7 3

V1 bets 35, I raise to 150, V2 folds, V1 calls

Turn 390 - 9

V1 donks 100 leaving himself 135$ back, Hero?

Hand is already decided now. Hes not folding and now we cant fold either. Just put in the rest now.

I also get bored and open hands I shouldn't and get myself in trouble. Its so hard to resist the urge to start mixing it up and playing poker but we just cant. Especially at a table like this. It sucks but we just have to only play premiums. And I need to take my own advice too trust me. I lost a bunch last night mixing it up like this against calling stations. You never have enough fold equity to make playing this hand profitable.

Why exactly did you raise this flop? He’s giving you a great price to draw! $35 into $125 for a 9-high flush draw—let’s go, easy call!

Or think about it another way: V 3-bet preflop and you just called. Flop K73 and he bets. What value hands do you raise with? Well you never have AA or AK or KK because you just called the 3-bet, while V can have all of them. You’re never raising KQ or KJ here, I hope (what’s the point?) There are no two-pair combos you can have. So that leaves… 77 and 33 exactly.

Meanwhile, if you’re opening 96dd and calling a raise with it, then I have to assume you have every suited Ace and suited 3-tapper on your range here, and if you raised 96dd I assume you’re raising ALL of your flush draws, yeah?

Basically: in addition to not making much sense in terms of immediate odds, it’s also bad because you are horribly unbalanced with your raise—you have way too many bluffs and not enough value in your range when you raise this flop.

And that’s bad.

Contra the first reply: 96ss is a perfectly fine hand to open the HJ with, especially deep-stacked and at a table where 3-bets are rare.

Preflop is an abomination. Do not listen to the fish above who busted his roll due to lack of preflop discipline.

Presumably you opened because it was a rare occasion where the action reached the HJ without a limp, but even so just hold your nerve. Keep a tight ship and raise big over the limpers with an appropriate hand. Not this - nothing to suggest you'll ever take it down preflop.

When a loose passive player squeezes from the BB, your call when you're unlikely to have position on the field is... interesting. Don't throw good money after bad, this call is significantly worse than the original open which was bad enough.

Why did you raise a King-high board? Which portion of the loose passive player's 3bet range were you targetting?

Anyhow the call should mean you can put your opponent on a nice range of exactly three hands with a little additional margin of error.

You have 14 outs to improve, you're getting immediate odds to call albeit you're in bad shape against KK and AKdd. Is he ever folding on a flush card? Do you ever win at showdown unimproved? (No)

Bruh. This is so spewy.

Why are you playing 96 this way at a loose passive stationy table? Just play good starting hands with some showdown value.

Open pre is terrible. Raise on flop is ambitious, and too big.

Turn, I dunno. I guess call. But the poker gods could be setting you up to see a better flush draw.

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Turn is a Billy-in-jail question. Fold preflop, call flop.

Result:

That was a terrific spew contest. I think your opponent might edge it for spewiness.

Thanks I knew it was bad but wasnt sure how bad

I hope you used the table image you built with this hand to your advantage. I'm assuming everyone who saw it gave you tons of action after that, and that you started playing better hands, and not bluffing as much post-flop.

If he’s calling with Ace high what does that say about your semi bluff on flop?

Yep. I'd imagine this particular villain is just clicking buttons, but...I mentioned in an earlier comment here, you just have SO few value hands when you raise a K73 flop after just calling a 3-bet preflop.

Given your table description, you and I have completely different ideas of what an awful game looks like. ETA: After the lol hand reveal, this may in fact be the best table of all time, no?

I'd just open limp if I felt a need to try to get into some cheap pots. For this price and in position on likely a face-up range non-short (albeit OP to someone behind us), I doubt calling is horrendous.

Think I might just lean to a flat on the flop and use my position on the turn (i.e. see what he does on various turn cards).

On the turn we have no FE, so I'd just call with my odds. UI I'll probably consider a nit fold on the river in spite of odds (but sometimes the river doesn't get bet, so no point in putting it in now).

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