One of the last hands of my session at live 2-5NL. He porked me on the river and took my entire weekend's profit. Young unknown internet player shows up 1 hr prior, sits to my left. Our opponent seems hyper-aggressive, but controlled, and loves betting in position with what appeared to be a pretty wide range over this hour stretch. Creating my own hand history here....bare with me...


two extremely fishy limpers utg and early position
1st from the cutoff dealt A(s)J(d), I raise to 15

(I have about $750)


Villain($550) on Button calls with K(s)3(s). The fish also call

FLOP is J(s)5(s)2(d)

Checked to me, with the intent of getting a certain bet out my opponent i check my top top to him and he bets 35 into a 60pot, fish both call, and i check raise to 155. Villain tanks and makes the call.

TURN is J(s)5(s)2(d)4(h)

320 in the pot, i move in for 580 opening on the turn. He tanks and calls his remaining 350 off. He spikes one of his 15 outs on the river.

Did i play this hand poorly in overprotecting just a 3-2 edge? I think if i bet the flop for value, he would have called anyways, and the hand would have ended up the same, maybe i should have controlled the pot and released after the river?

I think your sizing is bad in this entire hand.
Personally I think a raise pre flop should be much larger especially in position

Regardless of how agressive he plays a bet on the flop is standard. Probably 2/3 is best. I don't think you can count on him betting flop to justify checking. Even if you think he steals here a lot I don't see a reason for a check raise. I think it just allows him to play perfectly against your range.

I think pre flop and flop put you in a ****ty situation.

I would personally raise anywhere between 25-35 depending on the dynamics of the game. And please don't use the argument 15 is a standard open in the game

Just my 2 cents

I'd make it $25 pre.

Standard would be to cbet, but I don't hate c/r if you are near 100% positive that he's betting his entire range here. Still I'd lean towards bet.

Turn seems fine.

Honestly, you lost one stack in this hand to a huge draw. If stacking off once ruins your weekend I think you should be playing lower stakes?

lol yea why are you only making it 15 pre. flop is really wet too think c-raising kinda overreps our hand...not getting action from much stuff we have crushed and always getting it from big draws/sets. villains also can't really have any pair + draw hands that we destroy

like 12:1 SPR don't really want to be playing for stacks with TPTK here. people do flat queens pre and stuff (not to mention 22 and 55). so yea i just really hate the c-raise.

why does losing a 150bb stack upset you? a lot of times on turn u will just get snapped off by A3dd/34ss/set (though when villain tank calls flop c-raies i dont think he has a set ever) so i guess it was just the fact that villain was playing K3s?

Raise to $25 or $30 pre.

C bet flop.

Not even, villain is just $550 deep I believe.

just assumed hero seemed like kind of guy to polish off the rest off his stack after losing a "big" pot like this

I don't know what you all are thinking... Hero definitely has taken the most profitable line
and got called by a slightly worse hand which was getting correct pot odds to call.

Villain called $580 to win $900, which is 1.5:1 on an 18 out draw. (37% equity)
Not a terrible call by any means by the villain. Still, this is EV+ play for the Hero he is putting his money in good.

I don't like the overbet on the turn for one reason, it's really hard for anyone to call that
bet with a worse hand like KJ, naked flush draw, nut flush draw, etc. All of those hands are folding to this overbet on the turn. Only 2 pair+ hands and combo draws are calling,
which is bad for hero. You want to get value from JT+ and all the flush draws.

So the overbet is not a mistake in this particular case because you got called by worse,
but villains range could be a lot stronger on turn. Specifically he could have a hand like A3s, 63s which you're dead to or even 42s.

To correct the info, the two fish were in the blinds, they were not limpers. I was the first raiser to the pot with my 3x raise. I thought it was good. I am not raising to 25/30 unless they did infact both limp.

Make it 20-25 pre also probably just bet flop. Villain is going to put you in a lot of tough spots if the spade peels on the turn or if a Q or K comes because his range is so wide that you wont know what to do on the turn if you call and then the river if he fires 3 barrels. Also checking allows villain to bet once and check behind with draws and overcards on the board for some free equity so you are basically potentially letting him see 2 cards by checking the flop through. Standard is bet/bet then decide on river if the spade or bad card comes. Checking isn't bad if he does indeed fire his entire range but I would do it with the intention to call and keep his range as wide as possible. I would much rather do this with a K or A on the flop with weak kickers to balance out my range and throw in some monsters if he picks up on us doing it with weaker holdings and starts to barrel us.

You can only make this statement once you have seen the hand. The comments made by others are pointing out his leaks.