river straight on a pair board - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Live No-Limit Hold’em Cash

river straight on a pair board

Post Reply Subscribe

...

12-25-2011 , 10:05 PM

Popochao

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 226

Literally first hand after i sat down. effective stack is $118 at 1/2 game.

Preflop: 5 limpers, hero on BB with 6

checked.

Flop($12): 8

, hero bet $6 and got one caller in LP.

Turn($24): 8

, hero bet $15, villain raised to $35, hero called.

River($94): 4

, hero bet $25, villain raised to $75 and is all in, hero...

I put villain on 8x probably with a better kicker. He is unlikely to raise with flush draw on the turn since most live players are passive (or they usually tend to raise with a draw on the flop). I am looking to get value from 8x hand with the river straight. I think it is a fold when i got raised on the river...smells like a boat. anyone?

Quote

12-25-2011 , 10:14 PM

canoodles

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,017

Boat looks a lot more likely than a straight or flush, but you're basically repping a straight or flush OTR so he's never bluffing you... the only problem is whether or not he's one of those guys who says "oh well I only have $50 behind might as well shove!" With A8 or something, but this is why I don't like the river bet. IMO, the rationale behind flatting the turn is because we feel he has bluffs or we're not sure whether we want to commit that, but you contradict the merit of that turn line when you lead the river here... essentially, our hand strength has not changed a whole lot.

Quote

12-25-2011 , 10:44 PM

SomeInternetKid

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 740

i think in this spot you have to call but don't expect to be ahead very much more then 1/3 of the time, i'm not convinced villain flopped 2 pair and turned a boat because villain seems like he is winning to re raise and probably would have raised the flop bet had he flopped 2 pair, most likely here i think he has something like 69 or 76 of diamonds.

Quote

12-26-2011 , 03:09 AM

Popochao

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by canoodles

I agreed with you on the turn that we are either behind 8x or wanting him to barrel bluffs. However, on the river, i feel like our hand strength did change since we now beat 8x and can probably get value from it, i don't want him to check behind with it. therefore, is bet/fold the best line here?

Quote

12-26-2011 , 03:20 AM

dugthefish

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,087

There's too much out there that beats our little straight. I don't have a problem check/calling this; I would rather get to showdown than get blown out of the pot.

As played, I call, hope he has A8, and get the rebuy money ready.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...