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River a small boat OOP... what do we do? River a small boat OOP... what do we do?

01-31-2021 , 02:37 PM
$1-2 game, 6 handed.
BTN opens to $5, Hero calls from BB with 4d4h
Flop($11 before the 5% rake) Ts7d4s. Hero checks, BTN checks.
Turn($11) 6s. Hero bets $8, Villain calls.
River($27) Td. What should Hero do?

Last edited by vanvliet; 01-31-2021 at 02:49 PM. Reason: Mistake - I'd put $37 as the pot size on river
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01-31-2021 , 03:26 PM
When the pot is this small, I just go ahead and bet $15 ott.

As played, I would bet $30 and hope for a trappy overpair. I don't see non pair hands calling any size bet and I also don't see them bluffing when checked to.
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01-31-2021 , 06:11 PM
Easy overbet spot.


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01-31-2021 , 06:24 PM
Also regarding preflop, when i see this small BS sizing wich almost always means a weak ass opening range just bloating the pot from the button- i am 3 betting a shitton here.

Expecting to take the pot down pre a very high percentage of the time. If not we get it heads up with iniative and can C-bet print for folds on alot of boards.
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01-31-2021 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Also regarding preflop, when i see this small BS sizing wich almost always means a weak ass opening range just bloating the pot from the button- i am 3 betting a shitton here.

Expecting to take the pot down pre a very high percentage of the time. If not we get it heads up with iniative and can C-bet print for folds on alot of boards.

OTOH it’s a rare opportunity, given how people size raises in live low stakes poker, to be able to just call and make solid postflop decisions.


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01-31-2021 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
OTOH it’s a rare opportunity, given how people size raises in live low stakes poker, to be able to just call and make solid postflop decisions.


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Sure, i dont mind flatting either and play well post. Just making it clear i am 3 betting alot here compared to if the open was a more standard open like $10 or $12.

Basically i see these kind of opening sizing tells as a green light for us to just blast off and take the pot away pre rakefree.
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01-31-2021 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Sure, i dont mind flatting either and play well post. Just making it clear i am 3 betting alot here compared to if the open was a more standard open like $10 or $12.



Basically i see these kind of opening sizing tells as a green light for us to just blast off and take the pot away pre rakefree.

Yes very true. Lots of hands that are slightly not good enough to call are getting 3 bet here.

T8o? 20
J2s? 20

Also if you have to show it down, everyone will think you’re a maniac. It works good

Obviously to balance It out, plenty of value raises too


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01-31-2021 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
Yes very true. Lots of hands that are slightly not good enough to call are getting 3 bet here.

T8o? 20
J2s? 20

Also if you have to show it down, everyone will think you’re a maniac. It works good

Obviously to balance It out, plenty of value raises too


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Yes, for sure. We can even go 25-30 if the guy starts insisting on taking flops in position against us when we 3 bet his weak opens. Making it really unattractive for him to continue versus us.
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01-31-2021 , 10:30 PM
Overbet here is good. $30-$40. When pot is small, people often think in absolute sizes when they make the call.

You haven't given stacks. If he's less than $100, I might even consider a shove that may look spewy to him.
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02-01-2021 , 10:02 AM
As played, probably going on the larger side, maybe $25.

Flop - given that pre-flop ranges should be wide, I'd donk in this spot. We would also do this with the draw portion of our range in a min-raised pot.
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02-02-2021 , 04:44 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I actually bet $30 and Villain folded after 2-3 seconds of thinking. What is your logic in overbetting? Mine was: when I lead on the turn I can have a lot of bluffs as Villain likely has just two high cards. When Villain calls turn he likely has two high card with a spade, especially a lot of AsX, but it's obvious to him that I will read him for that – so when the river doesn't improve those villain hands, my river bet will often look like a bluff attempt, including (or especially) when I size big, so he could decide to call light, even with just Ace high.

However, when I thought about it later on, I thought that betting small, like one third pot, could also have been good. It will look like I'm making a scared blocker bet with weak 2p hands like 7X or 6X etc trying to get value from Ace high calls. We might induce him to bluff raise, especially when he has the As. Also we might get him to call with Ace high (which he'd fold to a PSB).
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