Home game, 1/2 blinds, effective stacks about 175. This is a non-raked, social game that's been going on weekly for 10+ years...we used to play at private homes, now online.

Villian is very unpredictable and switches gears constantly...can be very spewy, raises can mean little to nothing, ranges are virtually impossible to construct.

Hero (not me) is tight, and very predictable...OMC type.

Hero is in BB with A10 hearts.

5 limpers (not unusual), Villian in SB makes it 6 which means nothing.

Hero calls as do a few others.

Flop: A 9 5 two spades

Villian checks, Hero bets $20, everyone folds to Villian who calls.

Turn: 6, completing rainbow board

Villian checks, Hero bets $50. Villian calls,

River: 2

Villian checks...has $105 behind.

Hero???

Easy check back. TPmehK is not worth three streets, even against a V who isn't capable of a bluff raise.

You say 2 spades on the flop. Which two? Then you say the turn completes a rainbow board. It can't be both.

I would probably just check and take down the pot.


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Oops...5 9 were spades...

Turn and River were not...flush didn't get there.

To me there is a lot of information we still don't know about the villain. And it's not your fault it's just poker is a complex game.

How loose is villain after the flop? Turn? River? Is he calling hands down super light consistently?

How tricky is he? Will he check call check call then check raise a strong hand in a similar situation?

Knowing what we know, personally I would either check the river or bet half his stack. Checking gets to see his hand and minimizes risk. Betting gets thin value or induces a bluff. I can't imagine he would ever have a better hand than you unless he has A2 spades and rivered two pair. I imagine he would bet all aces since he was preflop raiser. So there's not many hands he would call a bet with.

I think shoving is very strong and he either calls with better hands or folds.

Checking also gets to see his hand. That may be more valuable in the long run than a small bet and him call/mucking.

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Well, Hero checked and took down pot...Villian showed A7 unsuited...really odd play, especially not c-betting the flop and very spewy, IMHO, calling the big turn bet (though he picked up a gutshot, but not deep enough to warrant call).

I'd like to know a little more about V given history. Might 3b pre for value & to isolate him if he'll continue super light.

Pot sizes aren't given, but it looks like we have ~1/2 PSB left on the river? If so, I'm just jamming there. Pretty unlikely he has a stronger Ax when he checks the flop, and he's never going to c/c, c/c, c/f with a weaker Ax when spades bricked.

I don't mind the 3bet idea, but I think jamming is a waste unless you know he has A8 or A7 and will stack off.

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It amazes me every time how conservative people on this forum are...

This is a clear 3bet against a pot sweetener type raise, we can go HU IP vs a spewy player instead of going multiway OOP. No brainer imo.

I actually don't mind a flop check as played because we are MW, but bet is fine also.

Turn bet is fine. Maybe slightly big.

Speaking of which, river is a clear shove for what i assume is a 50-75% PSB.
Are you telling me spewy villain minraised pre with AJ-AK and then only x/called on a flushy board? Please. He has an ace with a bad kicker here all day. Either that or he has a missed draw or something like 89s, that picked up a gutshot on the turn and might hero us on the river.
Probably not, but i've been surprised before.

BB’s main issue is that he’s not 3 betting in this spot. Decent hand against a spazzy opponent with a chance to knock out a bunch of limpers, and he doesn’t even have to make it that big (25 or so should be fine).


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Estimated pot on the river is $174, so when checked to I’d look to value bet.

Sizing really depends on your history with the opponent. If you shove, will he call with worse or does your image make this action too strong?

If you bet smaller say $55, he’s more likely to call, however, does a X/R mean you’re beaten?

There aren’t too many worse AX combos left, so I’d lean toward smaller sizing for thin value, targeting A8s/A7s which flopped TP and picked up a GS on the turn.

Pre – with $18 of dead money, I like a 3b for value and potentially isolating this opponent IP.

After V checks 3 times I think stuffing it in is ok, but not huge +EV. Check back isn’t terrible. Probably pretty close to a neutral decision.

I've got nothing against a 3-bet pre, but after V calls two streets on a dry board, I don't see what worse calls a river shove. The few FDs in his range (turn bet was large enough that I don't leave a lot) are obv folding, so no value to be had there.

We don't know enough about V to take Ace-Face out of his range completely, but I agree that there's not much. The big issue, though, is that most of his weak ace combos are now 2p, and the weakest ones that aren't are also often giving up to a third street.

We lose to A2, A5, A6, A9, and any Ace-Face, chop with AT, and only beat A3, A4, A7, and A8. Sure there are more combos of the hands without a blocker on the board, but that's at least made up for by how often he folds A-rag.

Opponent is supposed to be tough and we think he's derping in his entire stack with check/calls on three streets with TPNK? I don't buy it.

Don't know if I didn't make it clear, but it was a friend of mine who was in the hand...he shares hands with me post game to analyze.

The villian here is generally one of the biggest losers or winners most sessions...and also biggest intragame swings. He'll be stuck 800, and then have 1300 in chips a half hour later. He can be very aggressive and triple barrel with air. He can also get sticky and passive occasionally.

That, for me at least, is the definition of a tough opponent. I can rarely put him on a hand, and he's can be really aggressive. He can also go on tilt and just spew chips. The best opponents, for my game at least, are passive and play their hands practically face up.

Yeah, that read makes a huge difference to me. I don't consider that tough.

I mean yeah, this guy may be hard to read, but that just means that we are going to have a lot of variance playing him. If he is sometimes spewy and sometimes passive and sticky, I don't hate a river shove at all. Players like this usually hate it when they have to fold his air, which can help send him towards tilt, and he might make some bad calls out of frustration.

In general we should be betting this river. It seems unlikely that we have the worst of it, and we have a pretty big range edge. So you need to be going for value in these situations.

It reminds me once of a hand JohnnieVibes once played against some token TAGfishy/nutty type dude who played his hand on some 732-9-9 or whatever board totally face up as like QQ-TT, 88, with quads once in a blue moon. Johnny shoved queens and the dude folded jacks face up getting 9:1 on a river call.

Yeah, sometimes they just don’t call and you don’t get value. But you need to figure that out first. And when they make exploitable folds, you know to exploit it later.


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Seem like a clear 3b pre and riv is a shove for me.