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07-14-2008 , 06:38 PM

gmri

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SB ($423.60)
Hero ($449.30)
UTG ($454.50)
UTG+1 ($230.90)
UTG+2 ($805.20)
MP1 ($261.20)
MP2 ($132.40)
CO ($437)
Button ($696.55)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($2), Hero posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP : Hero has A A
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 bets $12, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $8.

FLOP: 8 4 J
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

TURN: 4
Hero bets $20, UTG+2 bets $60, Hero calls $40.

RIVER: 4
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $118, Hero ?

Villains stats are 15/10 after 150 hands. My stats are usually like 14/12/5. I had not been too active at this table. No previous history with this player. His weird line confused me. Ez shove or just call?

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07-14-2008 , 06:53 PM

Clever Nickname

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Originally Posted by gmri

SB ($423.60)
PRE-FLOP : Hero has A A
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 bets $12, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $8.

uuuuggggghhhhhh

as played i'm checkraising all in on the river and he's snap-calling with QQ,KK or any jack

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07-14-2008 , 07:19 PM

miaowmiaowchowface

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i dno wtf ur doin here, but c/r all in on the river

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07-14-2008 , 07:19 PM

Proofrock

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Why no 3-bet pre?

I like c/shoving the river since you only lose to JJ/88 and will get called by worse (any jack, QQ+).

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07-14-2008 , 08:08 PM

gmri

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Originally Posted by Proofrock

Why no 3-bet pre?

I like c/shoving the river since you only lose to JJ/88 and will get called by worse (any jack, QQ+).

I figured that his range is pretty tight from ep and a 3-bet would look too strong because I had not 3-bet him before. I thought I would get more value from TT,JJ,AQ,(AK?) by just calling pre and trying to get some money in postflop. 3-betting here should of course be standard.

During the hand I got confused because I could not figure out hands that would check the flop and raise that turn. Would he do it with a jack, QQ or KK? Moreover, I could not be sure if he is the type to slowplay flopped sets like this.

I took the weak-tight line and assumed his range includes only boats & weird bluffs and just called.

Thanks for the answers.

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07-14-2008 , 08:13 PM

zedveron

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His line looks a lot like JJ/88. I just don't see him checking that flop with any lone jack or QQ. And then the turn raise, it looks fishy. I'd just call.

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07-14-2008 , 08:55 PM

SABR42

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WTF this is such an easy shove after the line you took.

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07-14-2008 , 10:37 PM

GoMukYaSelf

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can you please type out your Stars name in this thread so I can know that any 3 bet I call from you is strictly for set mining purposes

ty in advance.

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07-14-2008 , 10:52 PM

sambo_888

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Originally Posted by gmri

His weird line confused me.

Your wierd line confuses me

Stop being a nit and valuetown the fool

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07-14-2008 , 10:57 PM

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CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by miaowmiaowchowface

i dno wtf ur doin here, but c/r all in on the river

that was exactly my thought. You should probably explain why you played 3 streets poorly when you post the hand though so we can be on the same wavelength.

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07-15-2008 , 12:40 AM

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Penguinz21

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LOL someone did this to me with AA yesterday - flatted in the bb w AA with like 4 callers of an EP raise to 3. I had 33 on a AK3 flop. Ridic. Couldn't put him on a set.

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07-15-2008 , 12:42 AM

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pattay

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this is the easiest ****ing value shove in the world

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07-15-2008 , 01:14 AM

#13

Proofrock

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Originally Posted by Penguinz21

LOL someone did this to me with AA yesterday - flatted in the bb w AA with like 4 callers of an EP raise to 3. I had 33 on a AK3 flop. Ridic. Couldn't put him on a set.

Top set mining, IMO, looking to tarp because donks always pay off with bottom set like it's the nuts. You got owned.

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07-15-2008 , 02:17 AM

#14

BT2

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how much money have you lost so far playing online poker?

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07-15-2008 , 02:52 AM

#15

Kelisitaan

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To everyone posting in this thread:

Please, stop educating the fish.

, Kelisitaan

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07-15-2008 , 04:23 AM

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SimaoMacaco

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welcome to the forum.

As said you have to shove, but really the board helped you an awful lot? i really cannot see anything that scares you here, unlikely event that he opens 45 34 from UTG+2.

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07-15-2008 , 05:33 AM

#17

gmri

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You are all correct. He had KK and im a nit. Bad bad play assigning such a narrow range to the guy.

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07-15-2008 , 05:58 AM

#18

ranka

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resplit again, remove nl400 from this forum

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07-15-2008 , 06:32 AM

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miaowmiaowchowface

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Originally Posted by Penguinz21

LOL someone did this to me with AA yesterday - flatted in the bb w AA with like 4 callers of an EP raise to 3. I had 33 on a AK3 flop. Ridic. Couldn't put him on a set, NOT THAT I'M FOLDING BOTTOM SET FOR 100 BB ON THE FLOP LIKE EVER.

fixed

also forgot to mention "outplayed"

Last edited by miaowmiaowchowface; 07-15-2008 at 06:35 AM. Reason: back to your cage?

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