Played this hand a month ago - i folded, solver assumes its a small ev mistake, i will reveal my hand later if requested. Just wondering what your calling range would be here

5/10/20 9 handed 2.5k eff

Im in straddle with xx

Utg+2 raises to 50, very good pro from europe but lives here now, studies, in the solver streets for sure.

I defend , probably viewed as a decent tag

Flop Kc8s4d (115)

I check, he bets 35, i call

Turn Kc8s4d 9c (185)

I check, he bets 250, i call

River Kc8s4d 9c9s (685)

I check, he bets 1k, whats your calling range here?

I think my online data will be relevant if this guy is as good as you say. His postflop sizing's are very good.

Your Kx/8x will be a 0EV bluff catcher OTR.

Here is UTG (6max so almost equivalent to UTG+2 in 9max). Triple Barrel Range



Underbluffed for all sizing's except B120 OTR which is GTOish

Below is a BTNvsBB triple barrel range to compare to filters.



Poker is all about nuance.

The 9x OTT gives a lot of his hands equity which makes me want to call down here.

Data point 1: Flush draw missed (over bluffed 36 weak vs 35 weak)---->Good data point to call down (This is BTNvsBB SRP but the texture tendencies don't change based on position).

Data point 2: Middle/low pairing OTR on K-T high board (overbluffed 37 weak vs 35 weak)

Data point 3: Bet sizing indicates he has strong grasp of fundamentals----->Overbluff as a default

Counter points:

1. In theory you are supposed to RFI tighter when there is a straddle so it's possible his preflop range is slightly stronger than it should be. I don't think this point is strong enough to overturn the other 3 data points.

Conclusion: Call Down with 0EV Bluff Catchers (Any Kx/8x).

Interested in results.

Assuming we're 3B'ing pre with AA, AK, and QQ, but not TT or JJ, I'm probably calling with KQ, KJ, JJ, TT, A8 no clubs, and 87 with no clubs. Probably folding A8cc and 87cc.

Youre asking me to construct an entire range that id play call/call/call on this board? How about tell me your hand and ill let you know if i wouldve played it this way.

My personal range if i were in Vs range in a spot like this would be pretty wide, and against me youd probably be EV+ to call with TPMK like KJ, but my experience is that I give V credit for not being too passive like everyone else, and then when i call them down in spots like this, its ALWAYS something like 88.

I have a few notes i read every time before i sit down to play poker, the very first one says “people dont play like you.” To remind me that in spots like this they tend to just have it, and its fine to be bluffed, bevause population tendencies even of pros seems to be that they massively under triple barrel bluff.

I will also caveat that I only have probably 20-30 hours of 5/10+ experience, so might not be as much the case at these levels.

I tend to agree with most of this. At 1/3 and 2/5, I'm going to need a stronger hand to call the turn over-bet, and an even stronger hand to call the river jam.

Playing in a higher stakes 3-blind game, defending the straddle against a single 2.5x raise from a very good pro, I'd think the calling range can be widened a bit, to include strong top pairs at a higher frequency, and some better 2nd pairs at a lower frequency, depending on how aggro V is.