This is typical of the rec fish that are playing strictly for fun. They don't care about odds, correct play, etc. They play because its fun and that they can "always" get lucky and win. I mean, after all, there are two cards coming right? If an 8 hits then I have a pair of eights, yay
. If a king comes then I have a pair of kings, yay
Imo (and in my neck of the woods), these players comprise roughly 15% of 1/2nl players and 5% of 2/5nl players. The significant and important fact is to UNDERSTAND THEIR IMPACT ON THE TABLE DYNAMICS.
Its key that you identify the thinking players at the table because the thinking players at the table are always going to try to isolate the drooler so they can play heads up.
This creates an interesting dynamic because we can widen the range of the thinking player who is trying to isolate and if we have the right image we can chase him out of the hand post flop especially if we have position. However, we have to realize we have ZERO fold equity vs the drooler so we have to have a hand that has value. TPWK or better is virtually the nuts against these type of players.
But, we can't be blinded by the drooler. The entire table is going to be licking their chops waiting to get it in vs the drooler so you have to beware ABC players. When they go to isolate the drooler, they are still only doing it with a top 4% range QQ+, AQ+ and most ABC players aren't going to be able to fold their value hands post flop.
Another important impact of the drooler on table dynamics is that he will increase the number of players that flat whenever he flats. Again, everyone is trying to get a piece of him so they want to play more pots with him. So, this makes a situation ripe for squeezing and isolating. We should be willing to increase our raising range and take advantage of situations in which we can isolate. Its profitable to iso against the drooler with a wide range, T9+, 77+.
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
As soon as I get back to work I am going to merge the raise size talk into the raise size thread. Discussion can carry on in there if needed.
I like the derailment. Can you just clone it and keep it in both threads???
I think it adds to this thread because the argument/derailment does a good job of representing the dichotomy of "typical" LLSNL play; the tighter/passive side vs the aggro/rec fish side. And more than anything, I want this thread to be representative of typical LLSNL play.
Overall, I think it helps the thread.
Last edited by dgiharris; 10-02-2012 at 02:16 PM.