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08-26-2020 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Sabr, really not sure about the rose
Why's that? I think it depends on the girl obv but I think it can be a strong move. It shows effort and intent without being over the top. My former roommate opened like this with his current gf (2.5 years) and she said it was really sweet and no other guy had done that before.

In my case I think it was a fine play but of course I'd like to hear your reasoning.
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08-26-2020 , 06:11 PM
RTP - I was meaning specifically wrt your PG&C, but thx for taking the time. Thinking of starting my own soon, which is why I’m curious.
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08-26-2020 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
1) I get to use my time how I desire [x]

2) nobody tells me what to do [x]

3) I’m playing and studying a game all day.... [x]

4) I’m filling the hole I felt from stopping to compete in chess tournaments bi-weekly or thereabouts for 10+ years.... strategy games are my calling bruh

5) The money is fine and I’m just getting started

6) Progress

7) no regrets

Just to name a few.

That being said it’s difficult. I love basketball. Love it. I haven’t watched a single game, not one, from start to finish. I wake up in the morning, get ready etc. and do poker for like 10 hours straight with breaks in between for chess, errands etc.

I’m willing to work 80 hours a week to avoid working 40 on someone else’s terms so this lifestyle suits me.
I had that idea too when I went solo; it just doesn't work that way. You trade one boss 1,000 yards away for one thousand bosses 1 yard away.

#Melknowsbusiness
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08-26-2020 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Why's that? I think it depends on the girl obv but I think it can be a strong move. It shows effort and intent without being over the top. My former roommate opened like this with his current gf (2.5 years) and she said it was really sweet and no other guy had done that before.

In my case I think it was a fine play but of course I'd like to hear your reasoning.
because imo you're not going for sweet and you don't want to show more effort and intent on a first date - you're already taking her out. You should be going for fun and interesting but someone who is also a catch and tough to get

I'm not going to get into all the dating rules and game playing and stuff like that and everybody is different, but IMO, the minute you start a relationship with you giving them something off the bat..and particularly something that is a classic symbol of romance when you haven't spent any time together, you create a dynamic where directly or indirectly you're communicating that you're trying to take it serious...and trying to persuade them to do that and that's already an unequal relationship.

I'm not saying that you should treat girls mean or pretend you don't like them but you're immediately ramping it up to defcon 3 before anything's happened. that will put a load of girls off and will begin the dynamic for other girls that you're somebody who can be relied on for affection/gifts/nice dates etc...in other words, an easy mark.
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08-26-2020 , 07:44 PM
That is a great answer. Don't sabotage yourself by setting the bar too high either if you do end up getting serious.

First birthday gift should be dirt and it will be easy from there.
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08-26-2020 , 07:58 PM
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08-26-2020 , 07:58 PM
Wtf did she do with the rose for the rest of the night?
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08-26-2020 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I had that idea too when I went solo; it just doesn't work that way. You trade one boss 1,000 yards away for one thousand bosses 1 yard away.

#Melknowsbusiness
Congrats on your 1000th client
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08-26-2020 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
That is a great answer. Don't sabotage yourself by setting the bar too high either if you do end up getting serious.

First birthday gift should be dirt and it will be easy from there.
I show up to my dates looking dirty with an impeccably clean cock and ass
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08-26-2020 , 08:18 PM
My rule for a first date was $20 max. Basically a free activity + one drink or a coffee type thing. Go to the zoo, walk in a park, etc

I made mistakes when I was younger trying to impress with fancy dinners. All it did was set unrealistic expectations.
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08-26-2020 , 08:28 PM
My go to is drinks and mini golf/barcade.

Wonder why I’m still single.
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08-26-2020 , 08:33 PM
I went on a total of two 'dates' in my life where I asked someone out that I hadn't kissed/rooted already and took her out somewhere.
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08-26-2020 , 08:52 PM
Lotta alphas itt
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08-26-2020 , 08:56 PM
Slim did you give Mrs Slim a single rose on the first date Y/N?
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08-26-2020 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
Wtf did she do with the rose for the rest of the night?
Kept it. Left with it. I don't think it mattered too much either way and it certainly didn't make things worse.

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Originally Posted by feel wrath
because imo you're not going for sweet and you don't want to show more effort and intent on a first date - you're already taking her out. You should be going for fun and interesting but someone who is also a catch and tough to get
She knows I'm sweet. I've seen her in person several times and that's how I am to everyone.

Being sweet and being "fun and interesting and also a catch" are not mutually exclusive things imo. You can totally be sweet and confident at the same time without fitting into the "nice guy" stereotype.

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Originally Posted by feel wrath
I'm not going to get into all the dating rules and game playing and stuff like that and everybody is different, but IMO, the minute you start a relationship with you giving them something off the bat..and particularly something that is a classic symbol of romance when you haven't spent any time together, you create a dynamic where directly or indirectly you're communicating that you're trying to take it serious...and trying to persuade them to do that and that's already an unequal relationship.

I'm not saying that you should treat girls mean or pretend you don't like them but you're immediately ramping it up to defcon 3 before anything's happened. that will put a load of girls off and will begin the dynamic for other girls that you're somebody who can be relied on for affection/gifts/nice dates etc...in other words, an easy mark.
I don't think a single rose is ramping it up to defcon 3. A full bouquet would have been defcon 3. We've been texting for a while and I think she clearly knew I was interested. We both had a good time and she wants to see me again.

I appreciate your comments.
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08-26-2020 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
Slim did you give Mrs Slim a single rose on the first date Y/N?


Single.... no
Multiple.... no
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08-26-2020 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
My rule for a first date was $20 max. Basically a free activity + one drink or a coffee type thing. Go to the zoo, walk in a park, etc

I made mistakes when I was younger trying to impress with fancy dinners. All it did was set unrealistic expectations.
I think going for walks and other outdoor stuff is great in general, but I don't think it's necessary to set an arbitrarily low limit for spending money.

And all situations are different. The first time I met my ex I took a pretty crazy gamble and drove 8 hours to see her and our first date was a pretty fancy dinner. Got a 4 year relationship out of that.

Not saying I would ever do something like that again (I have too many local options now haha) but sometimes you just don't know what's going to happen and you can't be afraid to take risks.
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08-26-2020 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
That is a great answer. Don't sabotage yourself by setting the bar too high either if you do end up getting serious.

First birthday gift should be dirt and it will be easy from there.
I'm having a first date this weekend and bringing nipple clamps r/roastme
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08-26-2020 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Single.... no
Multiple.... no
Lollll
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08-26-2020 , 09:50 PM
FWIW I feel like I'm getting a lot of attention from girls recently (and not in the "I'm only talking to you because I expect money" sort of way).

I'm genuinely very confident and enjoying life at the moment and people are attracted to positive vibes. The fact that I'm sweet is a bonus, not a deterrent imo. Also with girls there's definitely a dynamic where if some of them find you attractive the rest of them automatically find you more attractive too.

I'm not delusional and think I have a shot with all of them, but I do feel like I have lots of options right now so my confidence also kind of snowballs in that way. I still appreciate all the advice though.
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08-26-2020 , 10:32 PM
inb4 Sabr opens up his own Tiger sanctuary run by his harem.
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08-26-2020 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I had that idea too when I went solo; it just doesn't work that way. You trade one boss 1,000 yards away for one thousand bosses 1 yard away.

#Melknowsbusiness
+1 (Gman please don't ban me, unsure of the +1 infraction rules)

I've spent about the same amount of time working for myself as for others - the novelty wears off quickly and you soon realize there is no such thing as not having a boss and it's far easier and less stressful when things are formalized through an employment environment

also, lol on you even knowing what it's like to work anyway
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08-26-2020 , 11:02 PM
#banthe+1man
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08-26-2020 , 11:04 PM
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08-26-2020 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
#banthe+1man
+1
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