Yo don - heading back to our old stompin grounds tomorrow wiff SPC. Hanging in lake george for 2-4 weeks! Have not spent QT there in a very long time...super duper excited.

Yeah, but it says $52k a year and could help with moving up the data chain

Well this job posting said bachelor's degree required.

I'm not sure but they pay well and my part time gig could end at any time

Hey you want to play this game of who can guess the most music videos w/ a billion or more views?

Awww yeaah...enjoy mang!! Haven't been in ~3yrs. We were supposed to do a trip back end of the summer for my wife's birthday but we decided not to air travel for a while.

you're smart enough to know that's not true.

Some people just make a ton of money along the way. Making money is super easy if you're skilled, resourceful, etc. Doesn't mean they cared to. Right?

Yea - no air travel for us. Making the mad 21 hr dash in the subie. My kid's work doesnt restart till august so I got her to come up and chill with us.

Yup, a lot for a chess livestream albeit I don't watch many of them.

hundreds of chess vids with millions of views.

this is a good one of carlsen being a gangsta:

you didn't need to graduate UMich to make $52k brother

What do you mean you're not sure? What were the job descriptions?

This goes without saying

I know, but a lot of people sell themselves short.

There aren't a whole lot of job opportunities with COVID-19.

This was the white castle description:

"Job Description
We are looking for a Data Entry Associate.

Requirements:

Manage daily workflow of data
Work with a proprietary database to assist in data archiving, and moving of data
Ensure quality and compliance with processes
Work with large sets of confidential information

Qualifications:
Highly detail-oriented
Demonstrated verbal, written and interpersonal communication skills
Demonstrated ability to work as a team player or as part of a project team
Reliability, a strong work ethic, and the ability to work independently
Familiar with Microsoft Office, especially Excel


Benefits of working at White Castle include:



Paid vacation
$54,000 per year

Medical, dental & life insurance

Weekly paychecks

401K & profit sharing plans

Free uniforms

Free meals while working

Promote from within practice

And more!!

Free food is hard to beat. Add in weekly pay, a 401k, a profit sharing plan, and health, dental/vision and life insurance, plus on-the-job training. Can you say #dreamjob!?"

Banking:

"Good resumes for future possibilities

Type or Copy/Paste Requirements here" - Glassdoor says it pays $52k a year on average.


Anyways I got invited to speak with both of them a swcind time.

Surely even the most pessimistic chat regs think a solid grinder can make $52k running nuetral EV playing 2/5 full time?

Only bringing it up since you clearly enjoy poker man.

I know at least 15 people personally who graduated in May 2020 that got $70k+. So it's out there. Especially when you went to UMich. And the class of people I went to high school with ('17) mostly still have a year left so it's not really even a good representation.

What have your friends been getting? Is it really sub 60k for the average top school econ major rn?

I do not

Nothing wrong with a starter job at $52K/year in an area with decent COL. Anyone thinking going to a good school guarantees higher automatically in all fields is lol. Particularly in this economy.

I honestly don't really enjoy Pokerbros/playing on my phone that much. It feels more like a job than fun. There isn't 2/5 more than once a week there, but the thought did cross my mind if Detroit ever opens back up.

Just a joke. It was IRTM's game we actually played this in POG.

Go into law enforcement so you can make change from within.

Ah okay that's completely understandable but nvm then i guess

i assume this was directed at me since I referenced UMich. It's not about guarantees. But assuming you went to UMich and were near the top of your class (why wouldn't you be) and studied Econ you absolutely should expect way more than $52k.

but I'm more so speaking from the lens of a Class of 2020 career fish with friends/classmates who have overwhelmingly gotten solid offers than an adult with perspective.

but apart from basketball, I've associated myself with mostly nerds so.. I don't know about 67o's circle

Can make or will make?

So banking isn't offering a position and you have no clue what position they would be offering if they were offering one.

Oh, and White Castle supplies sliders for lunch every day but you won't eat them because you want to be a skinny little ***** for the rest of your life.

Bullshit. If you aren't eating bread then you are just half assing it. Larry Wheels eats pizza and burgers every day:

50k a year in poker is impossible these days

You're like 4 years ahead of RtP on figuring this out. But LoL at going to Detroit. You don't want to go to that **** hole if you don't have to.

1.) What you should expect is relative to COL. DC and NYC have starting salaries much higher on average for obvious reasons, but relative pay is about the same.

2.) A BA/BS in economics is not anything special. Arguably far less marketable in the short term than accounting.

3.) There will be exceptions, usually due to connections.

To my understanding 67o hasn't even been offered yet. In this market a lot of grads will be accepting below what they would have thought 6 months ago.

DC- well I mean... it depends on how good he is? lol

Even with a $70k post rake goal to more than make up for the benefits, stability, and all the other godly benefits of a job (sarcasm)-- over 2,000 hours that is $35/hr or 7bb/hr.

I'll let you tell me what % of the best 2/5 players at their table around the country are making that. 90?

to be clear, I'm not saying being a poker pro is a desirable job for most but this just happens to be a poker forum and 67o likes poker a lot it seems.