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05-23-2020 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Decide I'm saving too much money. Need to support the local economy. Also need to expand my whiskey horizons beyond makers, Jack, and Seagram's 7. Went to the liquor store and got: Eagle Rare, Four roses small batch, and Rittenhouse Rye (some listicle told me to get the cheap rye so we'll see).

Taking each whiskey neat and as an old fashioned with orange angostura bitters.

Eagle rare neat: oh damn, that's some sweet and syrupy bourbon with mild pleasant charcoal.

Eagle Rare old fashioned: glorious. Drinking orange peel syrup in here. Could drink this all night.

Four roses SB neat: tastes a little cinnamon and mild vanilla. Pretty much no charcoal flavor. Tastes very thin after the eagle rare.

Four roses SB old fashioned: really can taste the cinnamon now. The spicyness is interesting and I would love as an one time apertif but I don't think I could go the distance on this like I would with Eagle rare.

Rye coming soon.
I'll look out for the eagle rare. I just picked up Four Roses single barrel yesterday but haven't tried it yet.
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05-23-2020 , 05:53 PM
I love me some Four Roses. Eagle Rare is no slouch either.
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05-23-2020 , 06:12 PM
Four Roses is good. Never seems to make it on to my shelf but I never turn it down when offered.
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05-23-2020 , 06:15 PM
I can see the appeal of four roses and I know plenty of people who love it, but I don't think I'll have it in an old fashioned often. The spicyness dominated the orange flavors rather than complemented it. I think it would go well in a whiskey ginger though so I'm going to try that tonight.
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05-23-2020 , 10:28 PM
Fwiw I have a bottle of the four roses small batch as well, and after trying the single barrel tonight, it's quite a different bourbon.
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05-23-2020 , 11:12 PM
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05-23-2020 , 11:42 PM
guys check the front page of ESPN..

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05-24-2020 , 12:20 AM
Can't read it. I'm too busy watching a documentary about Michael Jordan not putting his support behind Harvey Gantt who was running to become North Carolina's first black senator.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess this kid's chances of becoming the youngest chess grandmaster are extremely slim. Right or wrong?

Or were you actually talking about Eddie Sutton dying? Really sad. RIP.

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05-24-2020 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Can't read it. I'm too busy watching a documentary about Michael Jordan not putting his support behind Harvey Gantt who was running to become North Carolina's first black senator.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess this kid's chances of becoming the youngest chess grandmaster are extremely slim. Right or wrong?

Or were you actually talking about Eddie Sutton dying? Really sad. RIP.

Very slim, yes, although he’s ranked #3 in the U.S. for 9 year olds. The problem, and I dealt with this as well, is that you have to start over entirely to pursue international master or grandmaster. As you need to do it under FIDE, which is what the rest of the world effectively uses.

National Master is the highest title (apart from senior master “technically”) one can achieve under UsCF. This is what I have. He’ll likely get there a few years before I did so it’s a head start. My guess is that the kid will similarly achieve that In the next few years and then shift his focus to more profitable aspirations- such as teaching the game or enhancing himself academically Overtime to eventually work at Google.

For reference, I would say Becoming a grandmaster as a US player in your teens is comparable to starting in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL etc. at 20-25 (percentage wise)

but you don’t make ANY money so none of the capitalists care
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05-24-2020 , 12:40 AM
An acquaintance of mine, Luke accepted a 4 year, $1,000,000 contract at 18 To work for a google a few years back.

So I think the shift is towards applying yourself to that nowadays.

since that’s more respectable than going the distance with a game apparatally.

I think it’s the wrong move but the bag entices these kids. **** working for someone who isn’t as smart or hardworking as you imo

https://new.uschess.org/news/im-luke...-joins-google/
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05-24-2020 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I'm guessing he's using the term poker heroes very loosely. And why not come out when he's ready to share the details instead of this attention whore click baity sheit.
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05-24-2020 , 12:52 AM
I'm glad Google hired him because maybe he can fix all their bullshit they need fixed.
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05-24-2020 , 12:55 AM
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I'm guessing he's using the term poker heroes very loosely. And why not come out when he's ready to share the details instead of this attention whore click baity sheit.
I'll be devastated if my heroes Hevad Khan and Viffer are involved in this.
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05-24-2020 , 12:56 AM
I’ll be honest though having $1,000,000 liquid at 22 with upward mobility is other worldly.

But there’s a reason they’re paying him that.

This is the problem I have with $500,000 over 4 years 21-25 but people don’t understand the context and get all pissy.
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05-24-2020 , 12:59 AM
When is TCH is Dallas opening up? Would like to annoy you in person sometime before I leave this state
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05-24-2020 , 01:06 AM
Supposedly both locations will be opening this summer. So I guess June, July or August. No official announcement has been made.
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05-24-2020 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I’ll be honest though having $1,000,000 liquid at 22 with upward mobility is other worldly.

But there’s a reason they’re paying him that.

This is the problem I have with $500,000 over 4 years 21-25 but people don’t understand the context and get all pissy.
Great gig for 18, but you know there's this thing called taxes. And when you're contract you don't get benefits.

So what he got is about what the avg engineer/developer etc would get around here. Also he's going to have to live in/around Mountainview. It ain't cheap.

i.e. he's not going to have $1 million liquid at age 22 from this job alone. Maybe $100k if he's good with his money.
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05-24-2020 , 01:48 AM
yeah sorry I was just referring to the salary. Don’t remember why I wrote liquid. Taxes are huge of course.

that’s just one example though. $100-$125k/yr PRE tax in early 20s is a huge step down from the plethora of stories like that. like the guy above i know irl. It’s not like he’s an alien or a pipe dream.

but yeah wrt to the prodigy stories in general that have been coming out in droves like the one above on ESPN—that I’m sure no one else finds interesting :/ —- I think settling for trying to get a “great job” doing something you DONT like is dumb af for some of these guys. some people love their jobs in corporate though so that’s different. but no need to sell out for a little cash and peace of mind if you got what it takes imo.

hope more people can lead by example and opt not to go that route. i.e. ace school cuz it’s easy not cuz you need to.

To be clear, I’m not talking about me. This is what I’ve told countless parents and they don’t like it usually. smh LOL

doctors and engineers for the win I guess. It’s not like there are a ton of them or anything. Making a difference one safe choice at a time!
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05-24-2020 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I think it’s the wrong move but the bag entices these kids. **** working for someone who isn’t as smart or hardworking as you imo
You think your friend at Google is working for people who don't work as hard as him? Tech managers bust their balls and just because they don't understand game theory or machine learning does not mean they aren't smart.
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05-24-2020 , 02:10 AM
would like to reiterate that I’m not talking about myself, at all, except to relate (cuz in the process rn of not selling out for the bag). This doesn’t register to me until after the fact.

Am strictly referring to Chess prodigies like LHV (18-year old million dollar man) and why It bothers me that some of them are selling out. triggered by the ESPN stories (good for them, anyone can be blessed with crazy height and size (Shaq etc. )

I know for a fact a large majority just want to appease their family and not be ostracized.

oh well maybe I can show future Bobby Fischer’s the way to make monies and live a cool life on your own terms one day

edit: haven’t read your poast but slo ponied by reaper meh
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05-24-2020 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
yeah sorry I was just referring to the salary. Don’t remember why I wrote liquid. Taxes are huge of course.

that’s just one example though. $100-$125k/yr PRE tax in early 20s is a huge step down from the plethora of stories like that. like the guy above i know irl. It’s not like he’s an alien or a pipe dream.

but yeah wrt to the prodigy stories in general that have been coming out in droves like the one above on ESPN—that I’m sure no one else finds interesting :/ —- I think settling for trying to get a “great job” doing something you DONT like is dumb af for some of these guys. some people love their jobs in corporate though so that’s different. but no need to sell out for a little cash and peace of mind if you got what it takes imo.

hope more people can lead by example and opt not to go that route. i.e. ace school cuz it’s easy not cuz you need to.

To be clear, I’m not talking about me. This is what I’ve told countless parents and they don’t like it usually. smh LOL

doctors and engineers for the win I guess. It’s not like there are a ton of them or anything. Making a difference one safe choice at a time!
This looks like a copy paste of the New York Times recipe for a bitter 40 year old.
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05-24-2020 , 02:17 AM
No, I think he’s working for people who were nowhere near the same league at 17. He had already finished (aced) college with other interests and gotten a premilniary offer for $1,000,000 by then.

These guys he’s working for where probably a freshman in college at that age.

See the disparity? Leagues apart. Why start from the bottom?

Out of 3,000,000 people only 7,000 were estimated to get the jobs. How many of those were 17, but not legally allowed to Accept since they were a child?

Everyone has their own views. But it goes to show that these things are very well within the realm of possibility. Nothing to do with luck or anything. Just pure beast

why not take a Goddamn risk and be the Bill gates or mark zuckerberg of your craft? It’s not anymore of an outlier than landing a $1,000,000 contract at 17. Which is the point.

Last edited by RoadtoPro; 05-24-2020 at 02:23 AM. Reason: logic and examples don’t seem to work. Only odds
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05-24-2020 , 02:17 AM
In my experience, taking a good job leads to more exciting things. Not less. A major flaw of the 18-22 crowd is the fear that if they commit to a path that they are taking away options. You aren't, you're buying new ones.

Edit: also there is a perpetual doctor shortage and employers fight for residents and fellows up to 2 years ahead of the position start time. You don't know what you are talking about.
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05-24-2020 , 02:29 AM
You’re not understanding. Your experience, philosophies, apply to 99% of “18-22” year olds.

I’m taking about the 1%.

wrt doctors- same thing. You can get that ish by putting in 50 hrs/week till you’re 28. Which is nothing. You do NOT have to be as gifted and hard working as the guy above. Beasting at LEAST 80 hours a week at a higher effieicency too

So why limit yourself? And take direction from ppl who have never had the SAME (great, but not same) drive as you.

This is like saying professional athletes are out of their mind for turning down $200,000,000 contracts cause they could get injured. sometimes you have to bet on yourself jfc
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05-24-2020 , 02:37 AM
rtp, there's nothing stopping him from spending those 4 years developing experience and more importantly contacts to then launch his own venture

he's 18, dude, will be able raise 10x seed money with 4 years of google under his belt at 21 than right now
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