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Originally Posted by Natamus
Sounds like you hate music like the Beatles because it’s become hipster cool and anti-boomer to feel that way...
I loved the Beatles and Elvis as a small child. Elvis has held up but they haven't. I don't actually hate the music now, but I have found it boring since my teen years (I'm genx). At this point, if I want to hear pretty, elegant music, which I often do, I listen to classical or jazz.
Obviously, people can do whatever they want. It's just strange to me and kind of annoying. Like, people who take comic books very seriously and have big speeches about how it's art, which I sort of get. But at the same time they have no interest in Renoir or whatever. They just want to read about Captain Electricity fighting Professor Ape and act like it's great. It's kind of perverse.
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
lullz..not really my favorite band either but this is a pretty terrible take. Whether you love them like some or not, there is no question they impacted tons and tons of artists including many you probably like.
I'm not really sure what you are hung up on with the "artists" rant or how that was initiated by The Beatles...don't really get the connection or what it is you are mad about
I love talking/dissecting/thinking about the artists I love. People do it about all forms are "art" so not sure why music would be any different. Some music I love is fairly surface level good melody, good hook, whatever. Some is deeper with better musicianship. Not sure why we can't enjoy all.
So, with the term "artist," this is a recent thing at least with frequency of use. To me it feels obsequious in one way. Like, I can see this starting with A&R people kissing butt. "This room is for artists only."
On the other hand maybe it is people trying to make the pop culture they consume sound more important and themselves more smarter.
Anyway, they were previously known as musicians, bands, singers. People usually refer to music as music, rather than art. Why has the more honorific term become the default?
Sure, technically, anyone who makes a creative expression is an artist. But it's still pretentious. And many people called artists are just faces chosen to perform the work of others, so they aren't even artists in the loosest sense.
Discussing pop culture can be fun, but there's this certain brand that drives me nuts. There's this show on NPR where they will sit there and talk about a Beyance album like it is Shakespeare and Bach rolled into one.
I normally change the channel as soon as I realize it's on. However I recently heard The Misfits on NPR. I was like, whoa, what's going on here? I really like the Misfits. But, I also think their path to mass popularity is fascinating. I can't think of anything else like it. They weren't even very popular in punk circles when they broke up, now they play the same venues as Kanye West... like 40 years later.
So anyway, it turns out to be this terrible show and this guy is like "I've never gotten The Misfits" and they pretty much leave it at that. And I thought, of course you haven't. It's just insanely catchy, energetic music where the guy says he raped your mom. You're too stupid to get that. Intellectual yet idiot.
Last edited by ES2; 12-16-2019 at 09:22 PM.