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02-27-2020 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Interesting. Do you grind funerals often? The player pool may be set to take off soon.
Done 2 this year. But have hinted to the funeral director about transporting dead bodies. So for example, someone that grew up here and wants to be buried here but died in Dallas, somebody has to go get them. Dollar a mile round trip with the hearse and gas paid nets about 400 bucks. If things go well I may look into getting my embalming license.

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We should do a 2 + 2 meet up in Texas instead.
That would be fun. Would prefer Austin, but if DC plays Dallas would be cool too.

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Slightly related. What's the thing with the belt buckles? Is that like the equivalent of grills but for cowboys?
The thing with them are like a lot of other Texas myths as in that less than 1% of the population wears one. And those that do earned them by winning a rodeo event or are somehow tied to the rodeo business. It's like a trophy you can wear. No self respecting Texan would ever buy one and wear it.

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Belts can do that on their own though. Even a cloth belt or those no buckle belts. I'm interested about the buckles.

Do they supply the rope? Also that would require winning.

So how are buckles rated. Bigger is better? Is it baller to have diamonds on them? Or is that poor taste?
See above but generally bigger is better because it is usually means you won a more prestigious event. And gold, silver inlays with diamonds are not uncommon.

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
when i was down in texas the women were either 8+ or 3-. there was like no middle ground.
Pretty much this. And the 8+ congregate mostly in the large metro areas. Finding one in the wild where I live is like seeing a unicorn.
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02-27-2020 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Actually, I mean the compound average growth rate, CAGR. 6.7%. This is the metric that estimates your return over years of investment. Sorry for the confusion.

My point is that the 8% annual return assumption is likely a poor one. You risk considerably underfunding yourself if you assume 8% and get unlucky.

Given that bond yields are so low, and lots of sovereign debt is actually negative, the expectation that equity investment will keep up with the long term numbers seems nuts.

My advice is to assume you will need to save more, at least early on. The sooner your nest egg reaches critical mass, the better.
Yes any advisor/commentator/whatever using 8+% return expectations going forward is doing investors a disservice. And saving more is never not a good idea
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02-27-2020 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
Done 2 this year. But have hinted to the funeral director about transporting dead bodies. So for example, someone that grew up here and wants to be buried here but died in Dallas, somebody has to go get them. Dollar a mile round trip with the hearse and gas paid nets about 400 bucks. If things go well I may look into getting my embalming license.



That would be fun. Would prefer Austin, but if DC plays Dallas would be cool too.



The thing with them are like a lot of other Texas myths as in that less than 1% of the population wears one. And those that do earned them by winning a rodeo event or are somehow tied to the rodeo business. It's like a trophy you can wear. No self respecting Texan would ever buy one and wear it.



See above but generally bigger is better because it is usually means you won a more prestigious event. And gold, silver inlays with diamonds are not uncommon.



Pretty much this. And the 8+ congregate mostly in the large metro areas. Finding one in the wild where I live is like seeing a unicorn.
Thanks for the info. You're much more helpful than that elitist DC fellow.
I was genuinely interested and not being sarcastic though it might have seemed that way.

I didn't know any of that. I thought people bought the belt buckles. So it's like a sports championship belt. I get why you wouldn't buy one. That's like buying a WSOP bracelet or something.

Though I think that's so cringe when people wear them at the poker table. I was playing one time w/ Ally Shulman and every pot she played she made sure people saw it. When she bet she would flamboyantly push her bet out while shaking her wrist and making a sound effect.

So what takes you away from the oil game and wanting to move over to the death game?
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02-27-2020 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
So what takes you away from the oil game and wanting to move over to the death game?
Oil won't be around forever. Death will.
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02-27-2020 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Letting a worse hand catch up is not a mistake. Paying off worse hands is not a mistake. Folding the best hand is not a mistake. We are playing a range of hands against other ranges of hands. You can't look judge a play by looking at the outcome of a single hand. The entire strategy is important. Your thinking is results oriented.
So all we have to do is semi-accurately range 9 opponents in an SPR 3 pot based on a single flop action? Pokr made ez!

Or are you just getting it all-in regardless?

Also, not saying it won't necessarily be +EV. Just sayin' I'm not convinced it's more EV than having 66 in this spot.

Would be an interesting poll question though. But what's the chat thread's take? You have AA and are playing 1/3 NL and everyone has a $300 stack. You open to $15 UTG. Everyone want all 9 opponents to call (creating a $150 pot with an SPR of ~2, having given all 9 opponents 29+:1 IO)? I don't. I'd be extremely surprised if I was in the minority (I'd actually be extremely surprised if a huge majority didn't want this result), but maybe I'm wrong.

ETA: Lemme know if perhaps this should be taken to a separate strat thread...

GcluelessNLnoobG
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02-27-2020 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
Oil won't be around forever. Death will.
Is Cowboy a vampire? Or is oil expecting to be gone in the next 50 yrs or so?
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02-27-2020 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
So what takes you away from the oil game and wanting to move over to the death game?
Boredom? I mean there is not really that much to do in the oil game and not getting away from it. That just entails negotiating the lease and then setting back hoping they decide to drill before the lease expires.

Maybe a fun fact for some, you also have to decide what tenants are going to farm said land. My terms are year to year and and are consummated with an oral agreement and a handshake. Rent is 25% of whatever they make. Not much to do but drive by and see how the crop is doing.

So back to the death game question, I consider it networking. For example, a couple of years ago a 96 year old granny died that owned quite a few storage facilities in town. She only had 1 living heir who lived in South Carolina that had no interest in running said storage facilities in BFE west Texas. I didn't end up buying it but my buddy did. Mainly because I prefer more passive income and didn't want to be saddled with the day to day operations. Cash flowed enough to where the purchase price was paid off in 3 years. Now he gets to eat the gravy.

Im more interested in real estate. Granny dies, I buy her house from the heirs, update it because God knows she hasn't updated anything since 1962, and flip it or rent it. I have 1 rent house that still has pink tile throughout the bathroom. I just tell prospective tenants it's retro - chic. This goes for land as well but it's harder to buy on the cheap because all of the other sharks in town are trying to get it as well.
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02-27-2020 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
I have 1 rent house that still has pink tile throughout the bathroom.
Wait, your G's landlord?!?!

GlolG
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02-27-2020 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Actually, I mean the compound average growth rate, CAGR. 6.7%. This is the metric that estimates your return over years of investment. Sorry for the confusion.



My point is that the 8% annual return assumption is likely a poor one. You risk considerably underfunding yourself if you assume 8% and get unlucky.



Given that bond yields are so low, and lots of sovereign debt is actually negative, the expectation that equity investment will keep up with the long term numbers seems nuts.



My advice is to assume you will need to save more, at least early on. The sooner your nest egg reaches critical mass, the better.
One of the reason equities have been doing well is precisely because bonds and sovereign yields are so low or negative. People are putting money to higher yeilds - equities which is helping to prop markets.

Of course many other factors are in play, and pandemics won't help.
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02-27-2020 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
Boredom? I mean there is not really that much to do in the oil game and not getting away from it. That just entails negotiating the lease and then setting back hoping they decide to drill before the lease expires.

Maybe a fun fact for some, you also have to decide what tenants are going to farm said land. My terms are year to year and and are consummated with an oral agreement and a handshake. Rent is 25% of whatever they make. Not much to do but drive by and see how the crop is doing.

So back to the death game question, I consider it networking. For example, a couple of years ago a 96 year old granny died that owned quite a few storage facilities in town. She only had 1 living heir who lived in South Carolina that had no interest in running said storage facilities in BFE west Texas. I didn't end up buying it but my buddy did. Mainly because I prefer more passive income and didn't want to be saddled with the day to day operations. Cash flowed enough to where the purchase price was paid off in 3 years. Now he gets to eat the gravy.

Im more interested in real estate. Granny dies, I buy her house from the heirs, update it because God knows she hasn't updated anything since 1962, and flip it or rent it. I have 1 rent house that still has pink tile throughout the bathroom. I just tell prospective tenants it's retro - chic. This goes for land as well but it's harder to buy on the cheap because all of the other sharks in town are trying to get it as well.
So you're like Forrest Gump mowing the grass for fun. haha very interesting.
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02-27-2020 , 02:00 PM
just to clarify, not looking for a huge return, and I realize investing in myself will generate a far higher return. but here’s a repost of my reasons for trying to start invest early

“got it. for me it's the realization that if I don't invest 10% of $2,000 (discretionary, post emergency fund), I'm not suddenly going to invest 10% of $100,000.

so just want to start early and build good habits. fine with a 6% inflation adjusted return over 4 decades.

also cutting $500 of unnecessary spending a month over 50 years and putting all of it into a roth will equal ~$4,000,000 tax free at 70 (8% interest rate) so might as well acquire the discipline to buy and hold immediately. when everyone else is buying assets that depreciate.”

3-5% annually, inflation adjusted, is certainly fine. also understand that being meticulous about diversifying is potentially a waste of time with a 4-5 figure portfolio. just trying to approach it the right way from the start. As it doesn’t take much effort to do so.
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02-27-2020 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Wait, your G's landlord?!?!

GlolG
I am happy to report that all of the tile that was in this house when we moved in is now gone, except one white-tiled shower enclosure in the guest bathroom. No more pink, red, or ****ing paintings of animals on any tile in this entire house.
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02-27-2020 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
Done 2 this year. But have hinted to the funeral director about transporting dead bodies. So for example, someone that grew up here and wants to be buried here but died in Dallas, somebody has to go get them. Dollar a mile round trip with the hearse and gas paid nets about 400 bucks. If things go well I may look into getting my embalming license.



That would be fun. Would prefer Austin, but if DC plays Dallas would be cool too.



The thing with them are like a lot of other Texas myths as in that less than 1% of the population wears one. And those that do earned them by winning a rodeo event or are somehow tied to the rodeo business. It's like a trophy you can wear. No self respecting Texan would ever buy one and wear it.



See above but generally bigger is better because it is usually means you won a more prestigious event. And gold, silver inlays with diamonds are not uncommon.



Pretty much this. And the 8+ congregate mostly in the large metro areas. Finding one in the wild where I live is like seeing a unicorn.
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So what takes you away from the oil game and wanting to move over to the death game?
#BernieSandersHeadassplosion

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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
just to clarify, not looking for a huge return, and I realize investing in myself will generate a far higher return. but here’s a repost of my reasons for trying to start invest early

“got it. for me it's the realization that if I don't invest 10% of $2,000 (discretionary, post emergency fund), I'm not suddenly going to invest 10% of $100,000.

so just want to start early and build good habits. fine with a 6% inflation adjusted return over 4 decades.

also cutting $500 of unnecessary spending a month over 50 years and putting all of it into a roth will equal ~$4,000,000 tax free at 70 (8% interest rate) so might as well acquire the discipline to buy and hold immediately. when everyone else is buying assets that depreciate.”

3-5% annually, inflation adjusted, is certainly fine. also understand that being meticulous about diversifying is potentially a waste of time with a 4-5 figure portfolio. just trying to approach it the right way from the start. As it doesn’t take much effort to do so.
Is Dave Ramsey looping in every Chipolte in Texas?
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02-27-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Is Dave Ramsey looping in every Chipolte in Texas?
I believe Dave Ramsey tailors his advice towards irresponsible people who are trying to get out of debt. I don’t have any, given the scholarship(s) for school.

I’m looking to create generational wealth.
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02-27-2020 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I’m looking to create generational wealth.
Then why are you playing poker?
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02-27-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Then why are you playing poker?
Awwww man you just got back on 67o's hit list
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02-27-2020 , 03:49 PM
since I get to decide, long-term by putting in as much volume as possible, how much I’m worth. Being capped at $125k/yr or whatever for 3-5 years is kind of meh. I think I can do significantly better than that. Especially in Macau or wherever eventually. A lot of it is bankroll but I’ll hopefully become extremely good at the game as well eventually which should help a ton.
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02-27-2020 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
Awwww man you just got back on 67o's hit list
wrong username. It’s all good, he’s asking a genuine question.
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02-27-2020 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Being capped at $125k/yr or whatever for 3-5 years is kind of meh.
It's, like, why do we even get up in the morning?

Glifesucksandthenyoudie,amirite?G
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02-27-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
wrong username. It’s all good, he’s asking a genuine question.
This response is precisely why people think you're the same person.
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02-27-2020 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
just to clarify, not looking for a huge return, and I realize investing in myself will generate a far higher return. but here’s a repost of my reasons for trying to start invest early

“got it. for me it's the realization that if I don't invest 10% of $2,000 (discretionary, post emergency fund), I'm not suddenly going to invest 10% of $100,000.

so just want to start early and build good habits. fine with a 6% inflation adjusted return over 4 decades.

also cutting $500 of unnecessary spending a month over 50 years and putting all of it into a roth will equal ~$4,000,000 tax free at 70 (8% interest rate) so might as well acquire the discipline to buy and hold immediately. when everyone else is buying assets that depreciate.”

3-5% annually, inflation adjusted, is certainly fine. also understand that being meticulous about diversifying is potentially a waste of time with a 4-5 figure portfolio. just trying to approach it the right way from the start. As it doesn’t take much effort to do so.
Saving 10% of $100k is way easier than saving 10% of $20k. In fact, I'm not sure anyone could afford to save basically anything with a small income.

In reality, everyone always wants to try to maximize returns, when the only thing you have control over is minimizing risk. So effort spent understanding and minimizing correlated investments is of tremendous value. (But with a small investment sum, I think it may be very difficult to have effect diversification.)

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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I believe Dave Ramsey tailors his advice towards irresponsible people who are trying to get out of debt. I don’t have any, given the scholarship(s) for school.

I’m looking to create generational wealth.
Now this is the kind of thing that makes me think you are a bot.

"Generational Wealth". What does that mean?

I guarantee you can't get there saving 10-20% of your income and investing it trying to get 6-8% returns.

This kinda thing requires e.g. building a multi-million dollar business of some sort.
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02-27-2020 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
This response is precisely why people think you're the same person.
sir, you’re the only one who thinks that. I thought it was an accident but I guess you said that intentionally? Lol
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02-27-2020 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
since I get to decide, long-term by putting in as much volume as possible, how much I’m worth. Being capped at $125k/yr or whatever for 3-5 years is kind of meh.
I can see that. I mean grunting it out for 125k/yr with benefits bonus and 401k for 3-5yrs with potential to make 5-10x that by my early 30s and retire early. That sounds stupid. Poker is the obv choice hands down.
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02-27-2020 , 04:12 PM
Spyu, I was just trying to answer your question honestly. I never said I was making a good choice. Although, I obviously believe so.
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02-27-2020 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
This kinda thing requires e.g. building a multi-million dollar business of some sort.
Live poker the best path to accomplish this. Haven't you been following?
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