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02-25-2020 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Yeah, the Michigan football team isn't going on their annual big trip this year over Corona virus concerns.
A football program will receive major infractions if a local car dealership hires a player or 2 to wash cars, but if Michigan donors want to spend over a million dollars to send all the team's players overseas each year that's ok.
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02-25-2020 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
I think the more important factor is the absolute value of the money.

I don't think 1/1 $300 minimum BI would be intimidating to anyone or play much crazier than 1/2 $300 minimum.

$10/$10 with $3,000 minimum would be a much more interesting game.
Depends. To some nits $300 is a lot too. It's all relative to the stakes someone wants to play. My point being that's the MINIMUM. Uncapped game for sure.

And other rules where if you win 200bb+ off somebody you can't leave the table until they do. And you have to play at least one hand per orbit outside of the blinds and straddle. Probably some other rules that would be good if I think about it.

But basically not a game for short stacking, hit n run, nit, nut peddling pio pokulators or any other terrible for the game player types.
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02-25-2020 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
It's just not though...

There is a large demand for these daily tournaments that go on for about 6 to 8 hours.

Cash games are mostly small 1/2 games.

So I was really surprised to hear how big Texas games are.
I guess the culture of little donkements just really took over there. They sure were popular back in the teens, and I guess they still are. Helps when they are actually beatable.

Plus, I think the culture of Portland just doesn't have a ton of gambool in it.
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02-25-2020 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Would you ever feel comfortable putting $5k in the middle at 1/3 with an overpair 9 ways?
As long as the masseuse is good, yeah.
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02-25-2020 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
Gonna have to bow out the discussion that 76s have more value than AA in a deep stack game.

Good luck, gents.
It's really barely even about pre hand value. So much money is at risk at the extreme points of coolers that post flop decisions become way more relavent.

Along similar thought line, the gap between 76s and 76o probably gets much smaller too because of this. Yeah 76s can also make flushes but the cost of being overflushed is bigger despite it's rarity. So really you are looking for nut straights.

What road to pro says about these games makes sense to me. Be ultra rolled. Have good mental game. And watch the players at the table like a hawk before you start risking big money without nut or near nut value because. You should only be getting big money in with non nut hands against whales. I imagine mad postflop patience is required here.
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02-25-2020 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
for those saying the games are super soft- you’re right. but if you have tilt problems/weak mental game/ are under-rolled/don’t understand the necessary adjustments deepstack it’s not going to end up well for you.

everyone in this particular thread would crush probably though I’d imagine. but it’s not as simple as softer games= more moniez/higher win rate.

and bet/folding as your bread and better ott and otr does not work. People bluff big
I love games like this because I love to bluff and I'm a calling station.
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02-25-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Along similar thought line, the gap between 76s and 76o probably gets much smaller too because of this. Yeah 76s can also make flushes but the cost of being overflushed is bigger despite it's rarity. So really you are looking for nut straights.
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Flushes still have decent value in 3 and 4 bet pots.

777 and 666 flops are pretty good too. Also 776.

AA only has one combo of quads and can only make the dummy end of a wheel and one straight on top that's super obvious.

I'd rather have hands that can make 2 types of quads and a bunch of straights and flushes.

AA is pretty much one of the worst hands to have in poker if you ask me.
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02-25-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
So many lulz on this... the epitome of 1st world problems... what a clown.



Like, dude, I hear mice and insects are keto friendly.
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I hear the words keto-friendly and it makes me want to punch someone in the face. Particularly a keto-friendly face.
There was a @95 lb Asian lady at open mic night reading about some keto-friendly food ordering service. But her face was the cutest there besides from the numerous coeds.

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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
I am surprised that Portland is so far behind.

For the last several years now, Portland has been spreading games with zero rake and one-time $15 door fee.

There have also been three rooms operating steadily for the last few years.

The game structure was "shootout" with cash-out option and mandatory 10 minute break at top of each hour, but that is no longer the case for the past year plus. It's basically just straight up cash game, uncapped and no raising restrictions.

It should be crazy popular by now...
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Originally Posted by Garick
Yeah, the dealers work for tips. The last time I was there, the "cash game" rules were so byzantine that they weren't very popular (they had odd rules to make them officially tournaments), but even the donkaments were a pretty good deal.

The thing keeping poker from exploding in Portland, imo, is that a lot of people are still unconvinced about the legality of the set-up, especially after what used to be the most popular room downtown shut down under pressure and the owner reportedly committed suicide. This was over the status of dealers, but the details don't get much attention.
Assuming we mean the same Portland, they hide their poker very well. I was there recently and didn't see one hint of it.

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Originally Posted by reaper6788
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around ultra deep play.

On one hand, the blinds are now basically nothing compared to your stack so no reason to risk any money without premium pre hand.

On the other hand, you have insane implied odds against a dufus who will put in a lot of their stack without the nuts post.
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
nobody has less than 300 bb in some of these games. no fun in everyone hating you at the table.

also I’ve heard some home game stories from table mates that are absolutely insane. Like hsp type stuff/stakes. not sure if this is commonplace everywhere

bOO. there should always be one 30bb stack amid the chip mountains. He can get it in for a main pot that other player have forgotten about by the river.

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Originally Posted by Tanqueray
Gonna have to bow out the discussion that 76s have more value than AA in a deep stack game.

Good luck, gents.
Now that's a Lenten sacrifice we should do together.
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02-25-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
But basically not a game for short stacking, hit n run, nit, nut peddling pio pokulators or any other terrible for the game player types.
Agreed that for real deep games Shania and the broad meta become more important. You aren't fighting over the blinds, you are taking advantage of guys who want action so you need to give action.
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02-25-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
There was a @95 lb Asian lady at open mic night reading about some keto-friendly food ordering service. But her face was the cutest there besides from the numerous coeds.
So did you punch it like a donkey?
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02-25-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Flushes still have decent value in 3 and 4 bet pots.



777 and 666 flops are pretty good too. Also 776.



AA only has one combo of quads and can only make the dummy end of a wheel and one straight on top that's super obvious.



I'd rather have hands that can make 2 types of quads and a bunch of straights and flushes.



AA is pretty much one of the worst hands to have in poker if you ask me.


T5o ftw.

Can hit every straight but 9 high
Can hit 2 flushes
Can hit 2 quads
Can hit many straight flushes
Can hit a royal


I think we solved poker.
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02-25-2020 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I love games like this because I love to bluff and I'm a calling station.
I’m assuming you’re talking about me . you’re right honestly. oh well. I’m trying to be smart about brm nowadays. $2.5k eff. with a pro is my limit

sometimes I’ll just pay time and observe the ridiculousness.in other words, just zone in on a particular pro’s frequencies so I can implement them myself
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02-25-2020 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
A football program will receive major infractions if a local car dealership hires a player or 2 to wash cars, but if Michigan donors want to spend over a million dollars to send all the team's players overseas each year that's ok.
Yeah, and I'm right there behind them as a donor to Michigan's football team.
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02-25-2020 , 02:57 PM
Come on WaPo, this is the biggest case of white people problems I've ever seen on a front page:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...JOG7URFDCOP65Y
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02-25-2020 , 02:57 PM
Even though I'm no deep expert, still think I'd much rather have AA rather than any other hand.

It always wins the set-over-set case and we can mostly always feel very comfortable attempting to play for stacks with a set postflop even mega deep.

And we always feel comfortable playing for stacks preflop if someone wants to. One of the biggest 1/3 NL pots I've seen recently came late last session. Some limps (perhaps to a straddle). Aggro player $25 in CO. Button with AA $75. One of the limpers now limp/reraises to $200. CO folds. Button ships $800. Limp/reraise tank sigh thinks and finally calls. Qxxxx runout and AA holds (so I guess against KK or perhaps AK). 76sooted ain't ever gonna get into those comfortable spots.

GcluelessAAnoobG
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02-25-2020 , 02:58 PM
I have a couple o questions about pokerz in Tejas specifically austin. I see 4 rooms. They all seem to close in the early am. Bravo shows no rooms. Have any of you played in Austin? What games? how ossum on a scale of 1-13?

thank you
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02-25-2020 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
T5o ftw.

Can hit every straight but 9 high
Can hit 2 flushes
Can hit 2 quads
Can hit many straight flushes
Can hit a royal


I think we solved poker.
+1 This pretty much.

Being able to hit broadway and the wheel is very useful when you are trying to double range merge your game tree.
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02-25-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Even though I'm no deep expert, still think I'd much rather have AA rather than any other hand.

It always wins the set-over-set case and we can mostly always feel very comfortable attempting to play for stacks with a set postflop even mega deep.

And we always feel comfortable playing for stacks preflop if someone wants to. One of the biggest 1/3 NL pots I've seen recently came late last session. Some limps (perhaps to a straddle). Aggro player $25 in CO. Button with AA $75. One of the limpers now limp/reraises to $200. CO folds. Button ships $800. Limp/reraise tank sigh thinks and finally calls. Qxxxx runout and AA holds (so I guess against KK or perhaps AK).
76sooted ain't ever gonna get into those comfortable spots.

GcluelessAAnoobG
gg we were talking $5k effective at 1/3 though. not $1k.
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02-25-2020 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I’m assuming you’re talking about me . you’re right honestly. oh well. I’m trying to be smart about brm nowadays. $2.5k eff. with a pro is my limit

sometimes I’ll just pay time and observe the ridiculousness.in other words, just zone in on a particular pro’s frequencies so I can implement them myself
Weirdly I was actually referring to myself when I posted that statement about myself.
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02-25-2020 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Even though I'm no deep expert, still think I'd much rather have AA rather than any other hand.

It always wins the set-over-set case and we can mostly always feel very comfortable attempting to play for stacks with a set postflop even mega deep.

And we always feel comfortable playing for stacks preflop if someone wants to. One of the biggest 1/3 NL pots I've seen recently came late last session. Some limps (perhaps to a straddle). Aggro player $25 in CO. Button with AA $75. One of the limpers now limp/reraises to $200. CO folds. Button ships $800. Limp/reraise tank sigh thinks and finally calls. Qxxxx runout and AA holds (so I guess against KK or perhaps AK). 76sooted ain't ever gonna get into those comfortable spots.

GcluelessAAnoobG
If someone has a large database of all the hands busted in tournaments in early rounds, KK+ is probably pretty high up there.

How you see these hands really depends on where you are in the poker spectrum.
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02-25-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
T5o ftw.

Can hit every straight but 9 high
Can hit 2 flushes
Can hit 2 quads
Can hit many straight flushes
Can hit a royal


I think we solved poker.
Funny.

But if you're playing against a guy that will go broke with an overpair (big assumption obviously) and you get to see a flop for .1% of your stack then sure we really get to start mixing some trashy lottery tickets in.
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02-25-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
I have a couple o questions about pokerz in Tejas specifically austin. I see 4 rooms. They all seem to close in the early am. Bravo shows no rooms. Have any of you played in Austin? What games? how ossum on a scale of 1-13?

thank you
No clue, but to check games in Texas go to Poker Atlas (not all rooms are necessarily on there but a lot are) or go to the individual website. Texas Card House shows two 1/2 with bomb pot games running right now in Austin.

Depending when you come through, Dallas might have it's first legal room by then too.
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02-25-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
But if you're playing against a guy that will go broke with an overpair (big assumption obviously) and you get to see a flop for .1% of your stack then sure we really get to start mixing some trashy lottery tickets in.
Ya but you do know you have better chance of getting AA than 76s?

Are you still saying that in this specific scenario, you still rather have 76s?
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02-25-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
gg we were talking $5k effective at 1/3 though. not $1k.
$5k at 1/3 sounds boring. I'd much rather play with $5k at T/20.

Do they use straddles in the games you play? In particular do they offer the idiotic button straddle or the double idiotic Dallas straddle?
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