1-year in hoops. And baseball they can go straight to the pros.

Very, very few 18yos would ever get drafted into the NFL.

Shitcan this NCAA conversation.

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Incoming!

In the current system there are dozens who’d get drafted after yr 2 and a lot after yr 1 in college.

If they went to a baseball system then they’d find a way to draft a few dozen HS seniors each year too.

Tbh I have more issues with the draft systems than compulsory college, albeit they’re completely linked so you can’t really have one without the other

I too enjoy a good vegetable oil whipped into egg yolks.

Very few after year 1. Limited to a rare RB or WR. No linemen, QBs, or anywhere on defense except maybe corner.

Only if they implemented an expensive farm system. Baseball is more skill based and the farm system works for them. Football the shelf life of certain positions is limited even with the amount of strength training received while in college.

It benefits the NFL to keep the training and development at the college level even for the top guys.

Baseball and hockey don't have compulsory college and still have drafts.

There are very few 18 year olds who might go in rounds 1-4 but rounds 5-7 would probably be filled with guys who currently can’t be drafted.

If there is something that football GMs have proven in spades, it’s that the draft is pretty much a crapshoot with guys who have 3 years of playing experience in CFB, especially as the draft progresses into the later rounds. It’s doubtful giving them the opportunity to draft more better players in later rounds would make them more conservative

It's not the experience - it's the strength and conditioning. Look how many true freshman actually make an impact at a high level every year. It is a relatively small number.
If you think the draft is a crap shoot now, try making assessments off of high school camps and games. Even the big programs have a lot of misses, and that includes counting those who contribute eventually as wins.

The NFL set the rule barring being drafted until 3 years post high school for their own benefit.

itt today: are college athletes and civil war slaves the same thing?

if you don't think Trevor Lawrence or Tu'a would have been drafted after their freshman years then I will just assume you are drunker than usual.

Lawrence yes,
Tu'a first year of play? No. Came in late and would have been a risk. And those are the exceptional talents.

I don't think they would have been anything more than speculative (day 3) picks if they came out as freshmen.

For quarterbacks especially, I think a lot of weight is given to starting experience and the quality of the competition

(Daniel Jones and Mitchell Trubisky excepted)

Kind of why I think Justin Fields will be quite a bust: OSU never asked him to do anything, he's never made hot reads against a fierce pass rush, the speed of the NFL will overwhelm him when he's not playing against Rutgers.

The NFL star I feel bad for is the young star running back. Whether or not they get that 2nd contract and guaranteed generational money is completely dependent on where they were drafted, and when they came up for a new deal.

Devonta Freeman (4th round pick) played out his rookie deal, and got a 15M signing bonus on his 2nd deal. He was mostly hurt for the Falcons, got cut, and was last seen with the Giants. But he DID get to that second contract.

Melvin Gordon holds out for a new deal. Chargers say who tf do you think you are, we've got undrafted AUSTIN EKELER! Walks, signs in FA on a pillow contract in Denver, and can't capitalize on his market value from his most recent good season. Nice income for THIS year, but no generational money.

Saquon Barkley. The number 2 overall pick. Currently hurt with a career-threatening ACL injury. If the Giants were smart (and I wouldn't put ANYthing past Gettleman), you renew his 5th year option, let him walk after, and draft a new RB.

Ezekiel Elliott came up for a new deal, and because Jerruh has a misguided sense of loyalty, he got re-upped in a big way for a 3-win Dallas team. I'm happy for Zeke, and every player, for using their leverage to squeeze as many dollars as they can out of their too-short playing career.

Derrick Henry was at least able to leverage a nice playoff run into a 2nd contract.

And he's The Man, at least for now, until his running style catches up with him

And just like Marshawn Lynch, or Marion Barber, or TJ Duckett, when the end comes... it will come hard and fast and permanently, and good for him for getting that 2nd deal so at least his grandkids can go to college.

Unless things have changed since I stopped watching that cuckboy league, teams can't afford to just pay QBs big money to sit on the bench and develop. Given that, it would either be a foolish pick or Lawrence wouldn't get drafted high enough to make it worth coming out for the draft (regardless of whether he's a once in a generation type talent).

Lawrence was the #1 QB recruit and beat Alabama for the national championship. He’d have been a top 5 pick after his freshman year

This.

They are nothing like slaves whatsoever though. Not civil war slaves nor slaves in 2020. Most people could only dream of living the life these college football players live.


And using the term slave does cheapen what actual slaves go through, whether you are using it as a hyperbole or not.

Could you be born into indentured status, say if Daddy gambled away the farm?

Be that as it may, there is no market for minor league american football. College fans cheer for the uniform and only appreciate the player in as much as he is one of us. Since 99.9% of football players need at least 2 years of development and practice, a free education with housing is a lot better deal than some AA dirt bus ride.

The definite blow off class was Creative Writing* I was surprised to find no athletes there. My story was an out of time and place Yankee trying to implement modern management thinking at a Southern plantation. It ends with the educated man firing the underperforming slaves; and telling the rest they don't want to improve they shouldn't show up tomorrow.

*If I were the instructor I actually would have failed a few. When told to write "a story" 2 pages of unrelated sentence fragments do not suffice.

Lol guys inb4 Garick

Interesting- I actually think Fields is the 1st OSU qb in a long time that will succeed in the nfl.


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Not in Colonial America. Indentures were contracts and binding only on the legitimate signatories.

That said, so were apprenticeships, and parents were allowed to contract those for their kids. The apprentices were often treated like crap, but were learning skills that would allow them to make a living. That might be a better analogy for college athletes, noting that the athletics isn't how most of them will make a living, but hopefully the college education will.

yeah, because we've seen time and time again in every sport that GMs are going to forgo drafting guys who are extremely young, but talented, because they physically couldn't play in the league on draft day... :eyeroll:

like, do you even know what the MLB draft is? you think GMs in football act differently because FOOTBAWL??

In NFL they have 4 years of control (5 for a 1st rounder) & nowhere to stash players. In MLB they have about 27 years of control & 12 minor league teams.

Pretty clear difference.