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04-23-2024 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.



Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4



MP: 121.26 BB

Hero (CO): 100 BB

BTN: 122.98 BB

SB: 52.02 BB

BB: 176.46 BB

UTG: 50.26 BB



SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB



Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread 9"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread:



fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, SB calls 1.75 BB, BB calls 1.25 BB



Flop: (6.75 BB, 3 players) 3"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread: 3"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread J"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

SB bets 49.77 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 49.77 BB



Turn: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 6"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread:



River: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 4"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread:



Hero shows 9"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread 9"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread: (Two Pair, Nines and Threes)

(Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)

SB shows 2"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread: 5"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread: (Straight, Six High)

(Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)

SB wins 104.79 BB
Yeesh, gross. Definitely have 1 covered as per this example.
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04-23-2024 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.

Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players[/b]
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Please tell me that $2 refers to the big blind here
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04-23-2024 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
Please tell me that $2 refers to the big blind here
That is correct.
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04-23-2024 , 06:33 PM
tough beat, if it was for 200 pennies I was going to be meaner
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04-23-2024 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
tough beat, if it was for 200 pennies I was going to be meaner
Nah at the pennies I run like god

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 30 BB
CO: 102.5 BB
BTN: 38.5 BB
Hero (SB): 103.5 BB
BB: 220.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, UTG raises to 30 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (63.5 BB, 2 players) J J 7

Turn: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 6

UTG shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 87%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows A J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 13%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins 60.5 BB
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04-23-2024 , 08:53 PM
Is yatahay ACR, and how does that work in CA?
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04-23-2024 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Is yatahay ACR, and how does that work in CA?
Yeah it's ACR. I just signed up like normal. No special process or anything. I had to send them a picture of my id though.
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04-23-2024 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Yeah it's ACR. I just signed up like normal. No special process or anything. I had to send them a picture of my id though.
Interesting, I didn't know CA was friendly towards online poker. I guess no regulation != illegal. Pretty sure I'd be flagged in CO, but maybe if I used crypto, it's fine. Not that I'd really be expecting to cash out much, but it'd be nice to be able to practice with less at risk.
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04-23-2024 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Interesting, I didn't know CA was friendly towards online poker. I guess no regulation != illegal. Pretty sure I'd be flagged in CO, but maybe if I used crypto, it's fine. Not that I'd really be expecting to cash out much, but it'd be nice to be able to practice with less at risk.
Yeah I never had any issues.

A few years back I cashed out like 15 or 20k I don't remember the exact amount from Ignition. No problem at all.
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04-23-2024 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Yeah I never had any issues.

A few years back I cashed out like 15 or 20k I don't remember the exact amount from Ignition. No problem at all.
Do you prefer ignition vs acr? Appreciate your patience with all the Qs. I would rather figure online out instead of going to the poker room.
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04-23-2024 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Do you prefer ignition vs acr? Appreciate your patience with all the Qs. I would rather figure online out instead of going to the poker room.
Sent you a PM in case you want a deeper dive.

Depends who you talk to and what stakes you plan to play.

But if you ask me the short of it in the current state I prefer ACR.

Both sites have bots, but Ignition I would say has more (at least in cash)
and collusion is easier and much more prevalent there. Which for obvious reasons I have a bigger problem w/ than playing w/ bots.

ACR is not anonymous so if there's a bot at the table I know right away without having to play guessing games. And I've seen virtually 0 collusion type plays.

The other things I don't like is their rewards are crap/non existent, their support is also quite bad. Not saying that ACR is world class, but I actually get reasonable responses within a day if I reach out to them.

And there's no 4 table cap like there is on Ignition. So for me all things equal I'd rather get better rewards and more volume.
The software is just way better and that's not an opinion.
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04-24-2024 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
I folded AA OTF on Friday night after maraking a terrible raise 200+ bb deep.

Hero raises red AA from utg to 3bb, BB calls.

Flop(7bb): 8h6c4h
BB checks, H bets 6bb, BB raises to 12bb, H raises to 50bb, BB jams 150bb more, H mucks. BB shows 86

Pretty sure that's a call against the click-back at 200bb deep, and the raise is bad. I was just thinking of building a pot, and "if I don't get stacked running big pairs into sets some of the time, I'm doing it wrong." But I still folded when I got what I wanted.
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I'd legit *consider* folding to the original flop check/raise against most (for realz, we block Axhh semibluffs and in general most people ain't min check/raising much we're doing all that great against except for perhaps the hand we ran into). If calling, it is often to fold to a non-helping turn. I would never consider reraising this deep.

Gfoldingmywaytovictoryatthesesstakes/opponentsG
If that is the case then the flop reraise is better than a call. The turn is not going to help and he is betting 100% of them.
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04-24-2024 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
If that is the case then the flop reraise is better than a call. The turn is not going to help and he is betting 100% of them.
Any 4, A, or heart(except 6h) is good for us. We have ~31% against the hand we ran into. Technically, we have the odds to call if we know he only ever has 2pr. But he also has 9 combos of sets and probably 16 combos of straights bc they're probably playing all 7-5 from the BB.
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04-25-2024 , 12:29 AM
question for gman

an article written by this guy was shared in the china thread so i looked him up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Studeman

retired rear admiral who's father was an admiral himself

is that kind of thing common a la nepotism helped give him a leg up in promotions or could have happened purely from just being the best candidate on a meritocratic system much like how so many professional athletes today have parents who were also professional athletes and they made it to the top via having a lot of the same qualities their parents had which led to success?
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04-25-2024 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Any 4, A, or heart(except 6h) is good for us. We have ~31% against the hand we ran into. Technically, we have the odds to call if we know he only ever has 2pr. But he also has 9 combos of sets and probably 16 combos of straights bc they're probably playing all 7-5 from the BB.
V is always betting the turn and often betting the river. Those helpful cards might cost us. It would be an interesting model to investigate a flop reraise to see if we should fold.

It does seem to hard to balance though. You are likely never taking that line with AK.
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04-25-2024 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
question for gman

an article written by this guy was shared in the china thread so i looked him up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Studeman

retired rear admiral who's father was an admiral himself

is that kind of thing common a la nepotism helped give him a leg up in promotions or could have happened purely from just being the best candidate on a meritocratic system much like how so many professional athletes today have parents who were also professional athletes and they made it to the top via having a lot of the same qualities their parents had which led to success?
It's relatively common, especially in the Navy, and is most likely a combination of those factors. On the one hand, they have an advantage as they are literally raised to prep for service and have access to great mentorship. On the other, they definitely get treated differently at lower ranks and get opportunities other people without their pedigrees would be unlikely to get. They probably get a bit of at least unconscious positive bias from promotion boards as well, and perhaps even conscious fudging.
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04-25-2024 , 12:37 PM
Brag: Got a new iPhone.

Beat: It's an iPhone 5s (my wife's old one), but still newer than my iPhone 4 that I had been rocking.

Variance: Will hopefully be able to figure out how to transfer over my poker results to a supported app. Otherwise just left with my not-quite-as-user-friendly Excel spreadsheet.

GcluelessdarkagesnoobG
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04-25-2024 , 12:49 PM
jfc, how long does the battery last, 5 minutes?
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04-25-2024 , 12:56 PM
You guys don't keep your phone plugged in 24/7?

G1-3days,butIhaveverylowusageG
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04-25-2024 , 12:59 PM
edit: rade the gtextg

are you ffing serious, 1-3 days? how is that possible, that battery should be kaput by now
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04-25-2024 , 01:04 PM
My iPhone4 I typically charged ~every other night or so. But 99% of usage is the occasional text / poker stats update and of course tip calculations.

GcluelessingeneralnoobG
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04-25-2024 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
My iPhone4 I typically charged ~every other night or so. But 99% of usage is the occasional text / poker stats update and of course tip calculations.

GcluelessingeneralnoobG
there's an easy shortcut

look at the pretax amount, move the decimal and then double it and adjust from there

or if you live where they do a tax that's an easy multiple of your standard tip size use that ie if the tax is 6% just tip 3x the tax and adjust up down as necessary

now your phone can last 4 days without a charge
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04-25-2024 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
It's relatively common, especially in the Navy, and is most likely a combination of those factors. On the one hand, they have an advantage as they are literally raised to prep for service and have access to great mentorship. On the other, they definitely get treated differently at lower ranks and get opportunities other people without their pedigrees would be unlikely to get. They probably get a bit of at least unconscious positive bias from promotion boards as well, and perhaps even conscious fudging.
If I recall correctly, in the factual biography Top Gun, maverick got flack for being Duke Mitchell's son, yea?
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04-25-2024 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
V is always betting the turn and often betting the river. Those helpful cards might cost us. It would be an interesting model to investigate a flop reraise to see if we should fold.



It does seem to hard to balance though. You are likely never taking that line with AK.
Solver+ said the fold to the 4! jam is correct. My 3! was, in fact, hot garbage. The initial bet was also marginal as the solver likes checking back OTF 53/47.

You're correct, I'm not taking that line with AK. I would with with a set, though. But I really only have 1 set on that board from UTG.
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04-25-2024 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
If I recall correctly, in the factual biography Top Gun, maverick got flack for being Duke Mitchell's son, yea?
Probably the only reason he made Captain. Most pilots who refuse to stop flying and start leading organizations top out at Commander, or even Lt. Commander.
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