Yakkity Sax, for the record (or is it an album?)

I'd expect the "unknown villain" at a vegas 1/3 to have a bit more of a 4bet range than the "unknown villain" at a casino on the east coast say. Not sure about midwest games at all. Texas from what i've heard about the games there is an animal entirely of its own and exists outside any general assessment and must be treated as its own unique species.

Years ago (15 or so) folks seemed to always suggest most of the vegas games were much tighter than other places - across both the low stakes regs and recreational players. the last time i played in vegas (about 13 years ago?) it seemed to play as close to what i'd expect - not overly wild liek a home game, occasional blaster/maniac, a few weird regs with strange quirks, and some out of towners like myself. I played mostly 2/5 and an occasional 1/2 when i was there. Didnt feel all too different from casino's on the east coast that attracted more regular recreational players and an occasional full time player say.

I didnt start seeing 4bet ranges that werent just QQ+ til i started regging 2/5 and higher (tho saying I regularly sat 5/10 would be inappropriate, i took stabs and as I am living out a life of penance for actions i committed in a previous one, i got stomped most of the time. even the whales were making moves on me).

Currently, I am starting to play semi regularly again hence me siging back up on here (first person to guess my old screen name gets all the glory and pride i can offer, id say the only folks i recognize are APD, Garrick, Venice and some others).

I had taken quite a bit of time off as I went on a pretty severe downswing about a year before COVID that really had me mentally ****ed up (along with other events/life stresses/other endeavors i was pursuing) but I felt it was a good time to simply take a break from 35+ hours a week at card tables. And it was. Sunk a large chunk of the roll into renovating my house (wasnt nearly enough to do what needed to be done unfortunately).

I've only come back to playing semi-regularly in the past few months or so. maybe twice a week or so, sometimes 3 if im lucky. In this short (small sample size bro) time I've noticed some peculiarities and differences in the games since pre covid and maybe a few things i thought were novel observations were just the same as before and I simply cant remember (shrug emoji) BUT I have yet to see a 4bet that went to showdown that wasnt KK+ in about... 16 3-5hr session so avg 16*4=64 hrs give or take.

Other fun stats I was keeping track of that i may or may not continue to do:
I've been set over set 4 times though in that period of time, and Ive also lost 1/2 of my 80%/20& all-in's (as the favorite) *sad trombone*

However! I've binked a 4 outer about 3 times which always makes me feel warm and fuzzy (two of em were flush vs 2pair - however the range I'd happily GII vs the opponent in 2 of the 3 times starts below 2 pair so I just happened to run into the upper end of their insanely wide maniac ranges). 1 of them was against a <100BB stack and not an all-in situation but just them letting me get there *shrug emoji*

either term works yeah? in my mind any hand in the low content chat thread should be soundtracked by that or something similar

Please stop

3 BAHHs is a bit much for the no content asylum.

That town has always been a group of rocks waiting on the tourists.

My bad yall I thought I was posting in the bb_love livejournal thread - accidentally mis posted up there - mods can you move my rambling bullshit to the dust bin thread?

It will remain here for posterity.

sabr post more 5/5 hand histories

sabr plz post more 5/10 or 5/5/10 HHs

I'm up $17K at $5/5 this month and there's 10 more days to go.

I see no reason to mess with what's working.

rungood must have started because you posted hh itt

gg, pl post more 1/3 hand histories of you folding overpairs and sets

I folded AA OTF on Friday night after making a terrible raise 200+ bb deep.

Hero raises red AA from utg to 3bb, BB calls.

Flop(7bb): 8h6c4h
BB checks, H bets 6bb, BB raises to 12bb, H raises to 50bb, BB jams 150bb more, H mucks. BB shows 86

Pretty sure that's a call against the click-back at 200bb deep, and the raise is bad. I was just thinking of building a pot, and "if I don't get stacked running big pairs into sets some of the time, I'm doing it wrong." But I still folded when I got what I wanted.

Excuse me sir but what the hell are you doing on the flop?

both times

Check flop and as played just call the raise. 3 betting is quite dicey especially at 200bb.

Here's a super boring standard hand at hamburger steaks.

Yatahay Network - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BB: 110.23 BB
UTG: 136.78 BB
MP: 101.4 BB
Hero (CO): 104.42 BB
BTN: 90.68 BB
SB: 102.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 4 J T
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 5.93 BB, Hero calls 5.93 BB

River: (16.86 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 32.04 BB, Hero calls 32.04 BB

BB shows 9 Q (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 25%, Flop 25%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 75%, Flop 75%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 77.94 BB

Flop is a decent check back also.

Damn I jinxed myself. Had my 1st loss of the month.

I don't actually know. I was trying to build a pot with what I thought was a good hand.

I think I see the problem.
The above is generally true in 3-bet and 4-bet pots.

You're trying to pile money in with one pair with an SPR of like 30?

i think gman will feel left out with all these hand histories so please put his name in lieu of villain in the next one so he feels like he was part of it

This is a good point. In retrospect, I wasn't considering SPR at all when I raised. My thought process through a hand needs a lot of work.

So the relative value of a hand will change on various flop textures.

So even though AA is a very good hand (some may even argue it's the best!) coming from pre flop land, when you get to the flop it goes through a recalibration.

So on flops of like A 7 2; 223; Q 5 2. It will retain or even increase it's value.

But when you're looking at 456; 678; it becomes drastically reduced to the point where you are playing it like a bluff catcher and the deeper the stacks this effect gets magnified.

slow down
breathe
take a moment

now ask yourself what exactly am I trying to accomplish in this hand in the circumstances that I am in. I have AA in a single raised pot V bb Heads up 200 bigs deep and there are currently 7bb in the pot on a flop of 764hh.

This is not a hand that I really want to go to war with. This hand is fcuking ossum preflop and I want to pile. Post flop in these circumstances This hand kinda sux

stop clicking buttons. you are better than this.

Thanks for the feedback