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12-19-2011 , 01:01 AM
100 BB effective stacks. Villain is BTN, plays strong broadways fast, overplays middling strength hands, pays no attention to board for sizing bets, has capacity to c-bet. Hero is CO with QsTc.

UTG limps
MP limps
Hero limps
BTN limps
SB folds
BB checks

Flop [4bb]

4h4d9h

BB check
UTG check
MP check
Hero check
Villain bets 3bb
folds to Hero
Hero calls

Turn Qd
[10bb]

Hero checks
Villain bets 20
Hero [???????????????]
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12-19-2011 , 01:05 AM
Fold flop. Maybe even PF. Why did you call?

And is this 1/2, 2/5?
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12-19-2011 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spyu
Fold flop. Maybe even PF. Why did you call?

And is this 1/2, 2/5?
I figured QT was pretty good against their limping ranges PF.

On the flop, I thought that he probably had a flush draw. I didn't think a pair was likely because of no PFR. Against a flush draw with a higher card than mine, I'm 15% or so to win, and I'll win against most FD's lower than a queen 40-55% of the time. I figured that a 4 was possible, but that I'd evaluate that possibility on the turn.
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12-19-2011 , 01:27 AM
Where do you play at?
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12-19-2011 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by spyu
Where do you play at?
lol, point taken. I guess you don't think he's making that bet on that board with FD or SD's that we're ahead of often?

Last edited by Lawlercoaster; 12-19-2011 at 01:45 AM.
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12-19-2011 , 10:08 AM
bets 20bb or $20?

with V image/read/playstyle not accounted for, i would suggest conservative play.

if V is capable of barreling river with bluff again, you cant call another overbet on the river. so dont call turn.

dont go broke on limp pot

for me, i wont even call the turn overbet. im putting myself in a bluffcatching spot on the river.
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12-19-2011 , 10:49 AM
Fold flop we could be drawing dead too and we invested one bb. If you think villain might have a fd then u should lead out unless u know he will bet any turn essentially. As played, I fold this turn which is better flatting then folding river.
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12-19-2011 , 01:42 PM
Lol @ where do you play comment :-D
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12-19-2011 , 02:33 PM
Are the limpers limp/foldy or limp/cally? 2 limpers is sorta my either/or situation (vs 1- limpers I'd typically raise any hand I'm playing in LP, vs 3+ limpers I'd typically only raise premiums). At a tightish table, I'd probably raise in this situation; otherwise, I'm cool with limping.

Flop is a super easy check/fold, IMO. All we have is overs, we might be drawing almost dead vs a 4, our outs could be dirty (flush draw), plus we don't have any draw, plus we're OOP in small useless pot. I would have much rather led this flop when it was checked to me in LP than check/call.

As played, I'd probably just check/call down and hope he's barrelling off a draw / worse hand.

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