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QQ vs. Maniac QQ vs. Maniac

12-23-2018 , 05:53 AM
NL 1/2
Hero has $200 on his second orbit. Hero has mostly been a non-participant. This game is pretty wild. Villain is a 30 yo Asian who doesn't speak. The worse he plays correlates with a chorus of "nice hand" from the other players. He makes no response. He doesn't really look up. His stack is about $200. He's played every hand Hero has been there for.
Hero is UTG+1 with QQ
Hero opens for $15. Ten isn't going to do anything in this game I already know. All of my opens are between 10 and 15 as a rule.
It folds to Villain in SB who calls.
Pot $32
Flop J97
Villain checks, Hero bets $25. Villain calls.
Pot $82
Turn 10
Villain checks, Hero checks back. Hero knows the guy could have anything here my plan was to pot control and call river. Too nitty of an idea?
River 2
No flush possibility. Villain leads out for $60
Hero?????????????
Do I give him credit for an 8?
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12-23-2018 , 06:42 AM
Against a normal player I'd definitely fold here. The $60 OTR is polarizing for most players, they won't have just like a T or a J there, and while this board looks drawish there's not actually that much missed stuff. It's clubs that haven't made a pair or a straight and that's about it.

Against this guy, well you haven't really described him, but there are so many more circumstances under which he could make this bet. He could have a jack and think it's good, he could have random draws, he could be turning a 7 into a bluff, he could just be betting because you checked the turn and that's what he does. Point is, against maniacs I tend to give up on reading their play and just play hand strength. QQ is a 70% fave against a random hand on this board and I need to win at less than half that frequency to show a profit, so I'm calling.
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12-23-2018 , 06:59 AM
I’m betting the turn again purely for value.

AP snap call riv
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12-23-2018 , 07:17 AM
Turn good check

River id call
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12-23-2018 , 08:45 AM
leaning towards a fold. call only if you have strong table reads.
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12-23-2018 , 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
leaning towards a fold. call only if you have strong table reads.
I got to know him better in the next two hours than I did at that point. The guy's VPIP turned out to be around 80. In four hours I never saw him raise. He called everything even terrible rivers for him. Once he led out on a river (albeit for 25 in a small pot) with a paired three. I'm not sure if he understood/spoke English. I never heard him talk. I tried to write this based on the limited information I knew at the point of the hand.
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12-23-2018 , 12:22 PM
This is like a snappiest of snap calls against villain as described. +1 to ChrisV he said everything there is to say. Against maniacs like this you just have to start calling off with many more hands because your range is much stronger than his in all situations
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12-23-2018 , 12:56 PM
Yeah I snapped here. He rolled over Q8 offsuit for the straight. Had it been 88 I wouldn't have batted an eye, but maniacs will maniac.
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