sb - $350
bb - $400
you - $1250
ep - $700
villain - $1600
mp - $500
lp - $600
co - $400
button - $450
You have Qc Qs first to act. You raise to $25. ep folds. Villain (regular) raises to $80. As the table is folding all the way around to me, I am thinking, my SPR is going to be a little over 12 if i make this call, which is not going to make this hand easy to play post-flop, but I am thinking that folding to a 3-bet with Q's may be playing too tightly. Since I have not seen my oppenent 3-bet often his hand range consists of jj-AA possibly 10 10 AK AQ. Since the stacks are deep enough, I can call to flop a set.

flop 9s 4c 2d

I check, villain bets $130. I raise $340 planning to release my hand if he calls or raises. Villain thinks for a minute and a half and slowly calls.

turn 9d

I bet out $450 committing myself to the pot if he shoves. he thinks for another 2 minutes and shoves.

You couldn't have played the hand worse. Essentially you're turning your hand into a bluff and representing a flopped set. I hate your check-raise on the flop because you're not going to get called by a worse hand often. You could still be very well ahead of your opponents range. If he has a hand like AK or AQ, or even JJ & TT he may fold this hand
which is bad for you. Seems like only better hands can call here.

Right, you should definitely just check/call flop and then make some kind of soul read if he bets again on the turn. As played, I would fold river as it's obvious he is expecting to stack an underpair. All his stalling is just for show. With no history, it would be real crazy for him to make this kind of move with JJ or TT.

flat flop. c/r turn

There is a massive flaw in your thinking here.....

Lots of things about this make no sense.

1. You are c/r here, planning to fold if he raises or calls you. So what good is having QQ here? you might as well have complete air, it has the same value if this is your plan.

2. One you c/r'd, you bet the turn, so you didn't even go with your plan of releasing your hand if he calls?

3. You cost yourself an extra $210 on the flop to get to the turn and now $450, for $660 total. You could have c/c the flop for 130, and c/c a turn bet of $300 and gotten to the river for $430 total.

4. If you are so worried about QQ to his 3b pre (to the point of almost folding), why are yo bloating the pot OOP?

Griffey24 very well said.

Gotta agree with everyone else with the addition of 1 thing:

I think the call pre was standard vs a live-tight player who obviously has no "bluffs" in his 3 bet range. If jacks are in his range (and you should really assess whether they actually are) you're completely over playing your hand. That said, because this player seems like your regular everyday live player with not much creativity, I'm not even sure AQ is in his range.

After he bets 130 on flop calling is standard. When the board pairs a 9, if he is a non-thinking player, he will check back the turn, at which point you could set your own price on the river for what you think are hands you can get value out of him from (TT and JJ).

If he is a thinking player, you could get to the river for exactly what the above post said (around 430) and reassess river. Some players might check behind with AA or KK with the paired 9's (terrible, but it happens more than you think in live games).

Don't do this.

what happened to your plan?

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