I'm SB in a straddled pot, 5 limps get to me with QQ. I raise to 25, all fold to old man in the CO, he shoves 100, folds to me.

Pot was 24+2+1+24+96=147, I have 75 to call. If he is shoving AKs/KK+, I need 27%, which I do not have. Can he be shoving wider? Is the call worth the lost % for table image etc? I have to think iso'ing to 25 and folding has benefits (people think all my iso's are weak) and negatives (people think all my iso's are weak).

Thoughts?

blinds? lol

wp sir. 1/2 my bad. 1/2 blinds, UTG straddles to 4$, bunch of calls.

Do we have any information on "The Old Man" in terms of playing style? What has he shown down? Any betting patterns? Has he shoved before and if so what did he show? What's your image?

This looks like a resqueeze, so I'm assuming your table image is not solid. CO called and the SB raised. CO has to think your range could either be incredibly tight or, if he feels you are on a steal, incredibly wide, and I have to feel that if he had a very strong hand then why didn't he raise when it got to him in the CO to thin the field?

No. In a vacuum, I have to think you are good. AA, KK would have probably raised the first time around, as those hands play horribly in multi-way pots. I'd make the call and ship the sklansky bucks.

do you have any reads on the old timer? I would probably call since you're getting 2 to 1 pot odds but if the old man is a super nit then you can be pretty sure he's sitting on AA, KK, or AK (which is obviously the best of the three for you).

I don't have much to say about him or I would have written it in the OP tbh. When he shoved I struggled to remember how long he had been at the table or anything he had shown. I like to think I pay an above avg amount of attention at the table, so at the time I assumed he had not done much in the past 30-45 he had been at table.

He was 60s and white, shoved relatively quickly by just sliding chips in.

Your image is huge here, but I am calling prob 90% of the time in this spot with 2-1 odds.

Ugh

Guys like this like to raise with really strong hands, unless he was 100% sure he was getting raised by one of the last 3 remaining players left to act. Just calling with a top 2% hand is asking to get cracked. If he's slow playing AA/KK then he's got my money in, fur sure.

I think you are either fading an A or a K or you're up against a smaller pair.

I am fairly sure I called in under 1 second.

However, I think villain has a hand that is not AA/KK/AK about 3% or something. I think folding saves me 75$ about well over the % that i win this hand...

Make it like 40 pre.

Are you really gonna put in a quarter of eff. stacks and fold QQ?

is the straddler someone that basically always raises when it gets to him to act? My thinking is that the old guy could easily have limped AA/KK knowing that the straddler would basically raise ATC. If that's the case you are destroyed here. That being said I just can't see folding given what's in the pot and what we have to call.

I probably raise a little more, but whatever.

Is straddler a notorious raiser of his straddles? I mean, that's the only reason an old man would limp behind other limpers with a big hand here. Otherwise, I'm super fistpumping getting my money in here for only ~50 BB.

Overlimp - big re-raise seems almost always to be AKs, AQs, KK or AA in the games I play. Against that range you are a 2.18:1 dog. If you can persuade yourself that AKo is also in old guy's range then you improve to 1.40:1 dog and you can justify a call.
Calling here is slim. All-in like this call or fold, I don't think it makes much difference. If there was money left to bet it would be a clear fold.

What size do you go to? Much bigger and post flop is going to be shove/fold for me/others.

Not a notorious raiser, I don't think he had even straddled a bunch tbh.

Still don't see myself calling and him showing JJ-/anything I beat.

This is 100% read dependent.

The only way this would be a call is if you're image (if he is observant) is pretty Laggy, which means you can add PP 88+ to his range.

However, the reason why i think this is a fold is because you WERE in a squeeze spot, however, your raise is too small for it to be interpreted as a steal, and thus his shoving range here is pretty tight.

You would be wrong to justify calling because stoving AKo into his range gives you enough equity. The reason is he is much more likely to shove AA and KK than AKs AKo, and more likely to shove AKs than AKo

I agree. AK most likely here. The limp would allow him to disguise against lower aces in position and allow a player who is uncomfortable post-flop to shove pre if he gets raised. Not many guys will wait around an hour for a big hand to play and limp Kings from the cutoff unless they are confident of the blinds/straddler raising.

Most likely he is a semi-gambly old man who is capable of calling a shove/committing his stack w AK. Everyone other than tight ass nits are 3betting AK pre. Shove n race. I think his whole range is TT+,AQs+,AKs and possibly wider if you have a looser image.