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03-04-2015 , 02:49 PM
1/2.Villain1 on seat 8, villain2 on 9 and hero on 10. Villain1 seems really solid player, mid twenties, aggressive but knows when to get out, haven't seen lose a big pot in ~hour or so he has been at the table, bought in for 200, now sitting at ~ 350, attacking IP like raising with 68o and winning with strt at end. Basically what i m trying to say is he is a really solid and tricky player. I don't feel comfortable tangling with him. I would say he is the best player at the table. Villain2 i would say on par with me, we r no 2s on table, but i can play with him. He likes to play really large pots, got coolered on river a couple of times, left table for hr and came back. Little bit on tilt but still solid. Villain 1-2 have't played for long against eachother. I m sitting at ~600 (i added 200 once, so 400 is my own, max buy in 300, i dont know if they r aware of that) n playing little tightish bcuz of recent downswing. So they might view me as tight and solid.

On to the hand. Previous hand, villain 2 straddles, i call, 4-5 other callers, villain1 calls, villain2 bombs 30, everybody folds. So i tell to the villain2 "seems like u want action, i will give u action" and i straddle. 4-5 callers, villain1 bombs to 30, i look down and see two black queens.
What should i do ? I know i m ahead of his range. But if i raise, i would be pretty much pot committed for eff stacks of ~ 350. And i feel he can make better decisions after flop. On any flop, if he shows aggression, i won't know where i stand. His range is almost the whole deck. If we r not so deep but instead like 100bb, i would definitely raise. Here if i raise to like ~100 and he calls, there will still be ~250 behind and room for plays. Whatever i do i m pretty much turning my cards face up. Call or raise ?
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03-04-2015 , 03:07 PM
i'm lost, do you have position on him? if you do, this is a remarkably easy three bet. i understand in real time why you might be gun shy since you feel he's very tricky, very aggro and very good. we've all been there, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm 3 betting to $95 and expecting him to peel and then we're seeing a flop.
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03-04-2015 , 03:15 PM
V1 is SB
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03-04-2015 , 03:28 PM
I assume you straddled UTG. For future reference clean up your posts so it is easier for others to view it. Take the time to write out your words. It's also easier to just state effective stacks.

Pot size when it comes to you is 65$.

You're in the straddle with QQ!

And you have position on the supposedly tricky player. You have 4-5 callers behind you and V1 raised it to $30 on the small blind. It would be very difficult and tricky to continue on if you allowed the others behind you to call the raise too.

Raise it up and play some poker. AP, I would like to raise to $80-100.
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03-04-2015 , 03:45 PM
You should be 3betting fairly wide here. like 99+, AJ+, KQ plus a smattering of speculative hands. QQ is an absolute no-brainer 3bet to 90, and you should be looking to get it in unless something awful happens or the guy folds (which is likely).
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03-04-2015 , 03:48 PM
Other callers are pretty much inconsequential. They are 99% folding here. My only concern is villain. My dilemma is, if we raise here, we are pretty much pot committed. Flop doesn't really matter. With bigger pot he might be forced to be aggressive too. He is not losing any more money while we might lose it all. If i just call, we might be able to see the river.
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03-04-2015 , 03:50 PM
Yeah, more i think of it, more i feel like i m playing scared money. Maybe bcuz of recent bad beats
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03-04-2015 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ironmikee
Other callers are pretty much inconsequential. They are 99% folding here. My only concern is villain. My dilemma is, if we raise here, we are pretty much pot committed. Flop doesn't really matter. With bigger pot he might be forced to be aggressive too. He is not losing any more money while we might lose it all. If i just call, we might be able to see the river.
Either he's not risking any more money or he's forced to be aggressive. He can't do both. He's not magic, he just raises a lot. Punish him by 3betting, especially when you have a monster hand.
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03-04-2015 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ironmikee
Other callers are pretty much inconsequential. They are 99% folding here. My only concern is villain. My dilemma is, if we raise here, we are pretty much pot committed. Flop doesn't really matter. With bigger pot he might be forced to be aggressive too. He is not losing any more money while we might lose it all. If i just call, we might be able to see the river.
If you feel committed on any flop, consider going all-in preflop. If going all-in seems horrible, consider not feeling committed. Shoving makes the most sense if you can convince him you have AK and he calls with any pair.

If you are capable of being tricky yourself and good at bluffcatching when scare cards come, I think it's okay to call and trap if you think you can convince him you are making a loose call.
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03-04-2015 , 05:22 PM
I think calling is a good play, especially if you're so sure that other players will fold. It disguises the strength of your hand and you are playing a decent sized pot in position with a good disguised hand. Nothing wrong with it imo.
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03-04-2015 , 07:56 PM
Never flatting here. Utg straddle raises rarely get respect. Only reason to straddle from this horrid position is to create action. Dream scenario is to straddle and actually wake up with a hand.

Easy 3! To 100. You want this to look less like value bet and more like scared over bet or bluff. In this spot against this villain I'm hoping for a 4! So that I can 5! Shove.

If you are afraid to see a flop with this villain in position with queens you should change tables.

Guess you could also 3! shove so that no more decisions are necessary, but think you lose a lot of value. Might get heroed by smaller pair, but more likely best case if called is a coin flip.

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03-04-2015 , 08:37 PM
+1 on hindisght
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03-04-2015 , 09:22 PM
I'd three bet especially given the verbal history. Villain might think you are trying to push him around with a marginal holding because he knows that you know his range is wide.

It kind of sucks, but there is nothing wrong with 3-betting, him calling, the flop coming AK9, him shoving, your read is that he hit, and you folding. That will not happen often enough to merit timid play in this spot. By 3-betting to 90, you open the door for him to make some really large mistakes. I could see him 4 bet shoving a good amount of hands you are in great shape against.
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