Hi all,

1/3 NL MGM National Harbor. Playing short stack deliberately. After table change, have played two hands (AK raise and take it pre, AJ limp and take it post) in an hour. "Up" to $120.

V1 (young European) raises to $10, V2 (fishy rec) calls $10, two other callers, $44 in pot. I have QQ in BB. All in, right? 3! to like $55-$60 seems awkward, raising pot commitment issues on unfavorable flops. Plus max FE this way. Happy to scoop pre if not called.

Any problems with just ripping it in here for $120? Better to 3! smaller? Just call? Honestly, no read on initial raiser. Seen him bluff 3-flush board with naked Ah and get caught by smaller flush. That's all. Seems capable enough post-flop. Probably opening a standard UTG range, which I am still way ahead of.

I prefer waiting for AA or KK to GII where I am absolutely crushing, but I assume QQ is pretty much the same hand in this situation?

Thanks,
DT

Yes with your stack jamming is the best play

Jam.

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All in.

Rip it in. They will put you on AK. Actually with this stack size, you could have a lot weaker, like TT+/AQ +seems standard and people who are tilting or Asian can be way wider than that.

FE is not really an issue IMO, I think that shoving or squeezing a normal amount will be seen as standard.

I have no problem playing a shorter stack but think you need to buy in at even 150 to prevent these super awkward spots. I think shove is fine but I’d go 50

The shippest of ships.

Obviously against KK+ and AK the money is getting in regardless, but you could easily get looked up by smaller pocket pairs or some other nonsense.

Hi, outdonked.

20 bbs is a simple push or fold situation. 40 bbs give you a bit of wiggle room, but when there is a raise, you are back into the 20 bbs land. Shortstack strategy is a very different game, you must understand not only what to do, but why you do it. Any deviation is simply far too costly.

Also, and I assume this is obvious, but with QQ you lose 120 a lot less often when you get called than when you have 7-2 or 9-3, of course.

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Ok let’s say I raise to 50 and get one or two callers. Flop is A or K high....what’s the plan? Pot is $100-$150 and I have second pair with $70 behind.

LOL, beat me to it. Not that it would make it more difficult to realize who he was, but maybe he could have chose not to use the same avatar with his new handle?

OP, just rip it in. You'll get called lighter than usual here, as you should be jamming a range quite a bit wider than QQ with this stack size. Now if you had AA here with this stack, I could get behind a min-click and then jam flop, but I think QQ is a bit too vulnerable for that.

we have 120. pot is 44... a 30% stack increase is a very nice outcome. like VERY nice, if u ever play tournaments u will know this. this is why it is a big mistake to make a raise size anything other than all in.

am I missing something? Hero is BB. what early players? or are you saying he should c/r non-A,K flops and c/f those?

You're trolling right? This is a 1/3 game.

Everyone else, please catch me up on the history of outdonked.

We have 40bbs (120). If we can't do basic math, we have no business playing poker.

Again, shortstack strategy demands that we shove or fold with 40bbs vs a raise. This IS the only intelligent way to play the hand. I'm not going to start a discussion in this thread about why this is or how we play a shortstack strategy, this has been discussed to death on this forum and elsewhere, a simple search should serve to educate yourself.

Excitable contrarian with a poker strat as fixed and inflexible as his posts.

Well said, I was kinda wondering how to describe him.